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39th Tokyo Motor Show and the next GTR

Old 02-20-2005, 01:04 PM
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39th Tokyo Motor Show and the next GTR

The Next GTR will be explored heavily this upcoming 39th Tokyo Motor Show. Carlos Ghosn will hopefully put a stop to the rumors, and the Next GTR will be the main attraction in the show. In Japan, rumor's are revolving around the VQ32DETT, of which many say will be the choice of engine. Although the GTR will not experience association with the Skyline models, it will still retain round tail lights as evident from the V35 models.

Carlos Ghosn will need to clear up somethings about price, specs, and release dates. It is expected that the GTR come out in late Q4 2007. Nissan's most evident rumor is about the chassis code, whether they will introduce a new one or not. They will certainly need to clear that issue up. The engine is said to be a twin turbo-detuned version of the one found in the fairlady Z33 (350Z) and it is said to have close to 480ps~hp. In the U.S. many rumors surrounding conservative emissions have spurred, those of N/A V8's. Many japanese magazines have speculated on the car's specs.

Mainly it has revolved around the VQ, which might be the same one used in the JGTC since 2003, which coincedently replaced the RB6DETT in some R34 GTR race cars. Many people were discontent with what Nissan released in 2001, the GTR Concept, but it is said that the new GTR will not dissapoint. The test mule under the infiniti body was said to have been a cover up of the internal structure, the real body is still being under development. What is known, is that the body might reflect that of the 350's, not of the V35's. The Next GTR will set the tone for other car makers, the car having the most advanced technology, such as electrical assited twin turbos as well as 'e-4wd.'

Source: R35GTR.com

Tokyo Motorshow Info: http://www.tokyo-motorshow.com/show/2005/eng/index.html
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Old 02-20-2005, 04:02 PM
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this is a big deal actually. once this is widespread, it will create a big commotion coming october. I really would like to go attend myself. Maybe a fundraiser lol.
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Old 02-20-2005, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dave
this is a big deal actually. once this is widespread, it will create a big commotion coming october. I really would like to go attend myself. Maybe a fundraiser lol.
big commotion? are you sure?
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Old 02-20-2005, 09:34 PM
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positive. are you making a mockery of what im saying?
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Old 02-21-2005, 12:58 PM
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Here's some more info from Rezz:


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2005 GT-R Concept

After 3 solid years of speculation, CG concepts by Nissan design teams – not to mention the plethora of CG images produced by Nissan fans - we will get the final word from Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn regarding the Next GT-R. The 39th Tokyo Motor Show (Oct 19 – Nov 6, 2005) will be the venue where all the speculation and rumors stop when the 2005 GT-R Concept vehicle is uncovered.

Without a doubt the main feature at the 39th Tokyo Motor Show will be the Next GT-R. No other single vehicle has caused as much hype amongst the international Nissan fan base as this car. Nissan have been watching the international reaction to various rumors, spy photos, concept drawings and the like, and will take it upon themselves to officially state the Next GT-R’s design, new components and capabilities, aim of the car, and price. Nissan may even answer the question that’s confused a number of enthusiasts up until now: the chassis designation. Whether it’s UA-CPV35 GT-R, or due to the ’07 release date, UA-CPV36 GT-R, or another chassis code altogether, Nissan will need to explain why, if the GT-R is to drop it’s connection with the Skyline, would they need to incorporate the Skyline’s traditional four round tail lights.

Sources in Japan have already scooped the Next GT-R’s FR transaxle, twin motor-assisted turbos and ‘e-4WD’ – drive to the front wheels provided by electric motors powered by Lithium batteries. All these mechanisms are unique to the Next GT-R and will lead the way for other car manufacturers to make use of such technological advances in their own vehicle line-ups. One hotly contested feature of the Next GT-R is it’s rumored engine, the VQ32DETT. International speculation has sprouted all sorts of configurations: N/A and turbo V8’s, large capacity V6’s, even rebirth of the legendary RB26DETT. But no other engine configuration has been quoted more times in Japan than the 3.2 liter V6 twin turbo.

The rumored VQ32DETT engine has been developed in conjunction with Cosworth (UK) and the basic design of the V6 twin turbo – in 3.0 liter guise - has seen two full seasons already in the Japanese JGTC (Japan GT Championship) racing series, which VQ powered cars have won consecutively in the last two years. The rigors of JGTC racing and advances in turbo design should put to rest any doubts about a twin turbo V6 configuration not being able to withstand the treatment expected from a US market not familiar with a top level performance turbo offering from Nissan. The concern over how the US market would receive a medium capacity V6 turbo powered GT car from Nissan has brought forth all kinds of rumored engine configurations, none of which have had any mention within the Japanese media for at least two years. It seems practically all the rumors regarding engines other than the VQ32DETT have originated from the very market that is concerned about the reliability of a turbo V6 powered GT car from Nissan (or in the North American market, Infiniti) as opposed to the supposedly better reliability a larger capacity naturally aspirated engine of similar output could offer.

Much importance has been placed on the effective use of underbody aerodynamics, as well as keeping a clean, muscular shape devoid of any large spoilers which were such a signature of the superseded R34 Skyline GT-R. 20-inch alloy wheels and a mix of carbon fiber (bonnet, seat frames, drive shafts, rear diffusers) and aluminum (roof, door panels, rear tailgate) will also feature on a car that is every bit as exotic as it is technologically advanced. The disappointment felt by Japanese Nissan enthusiasts about the controversial tail lights of the V35 Skyline Sedan upon it’s release back in 2001 – no trademark circular lights or ‘hotplates’ – has seen Nissan make a complete about face… even releasing the V35 Skyline Sedan Series II with circular LED arrays to try and convince the Japanese domestic market that they haven’t forsaken the Skyline heritage. What this means is that despite the multitude of CG images gracing the internet and magazines all sporting slightly weak attempts at ‘hotplate’ tail light designs, the Next GT-R will definitely include the four round tail lights that have become the defining feature of the GT-R since the early 1970’s… even though Carlos Ghosn has hinted that the Next GT-R won’t be associated with the Skyline range anymore.

The motto of the Next GT-R that has been thrown around more than a few times amongst the Japanese media is ‘More Super-Sports than you can imagine’. You can be sure that Nissan won’t disappoint this time around, as so many Nissan enthusiasts in Japan have expressed their disapproval of the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show Concept GT-R. Look for more details to come to light as October approaches straight from Japan… so it certainly will be an exciting year for GT-R enthusiasts the world over. Expect to see the Next GT-R released in December 2007.
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man i beat thoughs toyo autoshows are crazy...
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