Oh man... we got slayed. Viper 7:22 at the Ring
 

Wow.. not the first post I wanted to make here. Anyways.......:mad:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ord/index.html

The ACR viper is a true racing machine, and I have always wanted to know what it could do at the ring. Not to rain on their parade, but the ACR viper is more of a race car than a daily driver. No radio, no sound dampening, a front lip that has to be removed to legally drive on the streets (in America)...this car is serious business racing from the factory. I would imagine there will be some similarities between the ACR and the V spec GTR (including the 100k price tag). Again, this accomplishment for the viper is awesome, but comparing the viper to the current GTR is comparing apples to oranges in my opinion.

It puzzles me. How about a better comparison? It's just like comparing the ZR-1 to the GTR, if you really wanted to do a good comparo:

Base GTR to Z06
V-spec to ZR-1, ACR

I guess the v-spec did an unofficial 7.25 earlier this year. They have well over a year to work on the details before it comes to market. I'm guessing that they can shave anywhere from 2-10 seconds from that time. But this is all just conjecture. The SRT team also thought that they could get into the teens with more track time. Still just conjecture. Only time will tell.
James

Have you all read the new motortrend? The viper ACR is pretty but a barely legal track toy. The ride is extremely harsh and not something that could be put up with on a daily basis.

There are rumors of a much lower than 7:25 Spec V run so I guess we will see. Just watching that pro driver have to fight with the car to keep it on the track makes me think that the average or slightly above driver would have sent it into the guard rail. Not something I would ever want to worry about.

EDIT: Something I thought was interesting, the car is about 1 step from being non street legal, :rofl: street car :rofl:Source
I doubt I will find any of these cars at the local meets, I don't see this as a huge victory for dodge, could you image if they completely strip a GT-R or ZR1 of every non essential part.

I have to disagree, the ACR is a very streetable car. It made the 2,000+ mile drive to Cali very comfortably. It is a Viper Coupe with front and rear downforce, different shocks (adjustable KGBs) and better tires (Pilot Cups). Otherwise it is the same as any '08 coupe.

You have air, stereo, sound dampening, same seats, belts and instruments. The power train is the same, as are the brakes. It just happens to be a great track car, pop on the front splitter and you're off, 8 screws. I ran with a GTR at Willow Springs Int'l Raceway but unfortunately he was more interested in showing it off rather then racing, really a shame, it woulda been fun. A couple of pics:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...Picture086.jpg

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Well Nissan held off on production of the V spec which it did a 7:25 so when they do release it I'm sure it will be only faster and better should give the ACR a good run.

http://www.youtube.com/v/08nxInpgTGc



"Talking to Corvette ZR1 engineer Jim Mero during our first drive of the car at GM's proving grounds, we asked him about his record-setting lap of the Nürburgring. He told us if you inspect the video, you can see he probably could have shaved at least half a second off the 7:26.4 lap time if he had just taken a few of the turns better. "

http://jalopnik.com/5039885/jim-mero...nrburgring-lap

Guess the vette is maxed out.

VCA vid

http://www.kcvca.com/ACR_1.wmv

Impressive time; beyond impressive to be honest. Nissan is now having to play catch-up. Looks like the big threat to closed lap fame is Dodge, not GM.

But you're either a Viper person or you're not, in my opinion. Maybe it's must me... but I don't really get it. Even when I see them at cars-n-coffee meets, I'm not really.... it's just not my thing.

Watching the in-cockpit vid is pretty hypnotic. You do get an idea of how the cars are just booking around the Ring. It's insane.

Cool there are 2 GT-R forums

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....pic=24429&st=0

I stand corrected...mostly. I was referring to the hard core package, but I appreciate your feedback as an ACR owner. You've got a mean car.:smilie_th

i dont think you CAN compare the Viper to the GTR-V.


When comparing cars, the single greatest factor is price... this is almost like when people compared the M3 to the porsche GT2... whats the point???


and the ACR viper is closer in price to the GTR than the GTR-V... so ill continue to compare it to the GTR.


regardless, EXTREMLY impressive time. but even more impressive... that driver kept that car on the road!!!

Very impressive time...which should be easily fixed/remedied by engine/suspension/tire modifications to the GT-R.

Heck, aren't the Pilot Sport Cups a DOT R compound? Put some R compounds on the GT-R and you could easily cut off some time I would think.

The rear wing plus other downforce bits also generate 1000lbs +.

Cool side view.... gives you a feel for the ring!


http://www.viperclub.org/downloads/EXTERNAL.wmv

anyone else noticed how many times the driver hit the rev limiter?...too lazy to shift because it's a PITA!

You guys and your 'Ring times, 0-60 times and statistics. You're all benchracing. Comparing cars' statistics and performance test numbers is like reading about what a steak tastes like. If you ain't driving it on the track (drags, road course, whatever), what difference does it make? They're only bragging rights based on magazines' tests.

Get out there and drive whatever you have and be a true auto enthusiast. The guy with the Viper tracking his car deserves all kinds of credit. He's living the dream no matter what car he has or how the magazines say it compares to the other cars.

I see this all the time on the BMW forums (and everywhere else). There the talk is all about the carbon fiber roof and how much weight it saves and why it's so much better than the sunroof. Gimme a break. There might be one person on all of the BMW forums who could tell the difference between an M3 with and without the CF roof even after driving the two cars back-to-back.

Well said Magic.

Not true, i picked up my 08 ACR a few weeks ago, I have a radio, sound dampening materail, the lip is already attached, there is an extension included for track use.
The ACR is identical to the normal viper except for tires, wheels, brake rotors, shocks, and the wing, lip, and winglets.
They do offer a hardcore package that removes and additial 40 pounds that gets rid of the stereo.

The suspension is what kills the ACR for me as a daily driver. I thought the Bullitt and the GT-R had a firm suspension but after seeing the comparison in last month's MT magazine about ride quality it would be a track toy alone.

Well, it is completely adjustable. So you can change the settings. Every time I see it in my garage it just blow my mind. Photo dont really do the viper justice. When you see it in person it is just incredible.