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CharlesJ 10-30-2007 08:16 AM

Official Dealers selling at or very close to MSRP list.
 
List any dealers taking orders at or close to MSRP. Also, if you represent a dealer that is selling at msrp, please PM me and we will add you to the list


*NOTE* This list may not get populated for a while as probably most dealers will be charging large markups. As soon as prices get more reasonable, this will list dealers selling at or very close to MSRP

1) Feldmann Imports, Bloomington, MN - Took order at MSRP
2) Bill Hood, LA - $10k over. Still a bit, but on the better end of the spectrum
3) Royal Nissan, LA - "reasonable offers over msrp"

gundamz 11-21-2007 11:35 AM

Just got off the phone with a dealer. I am 3rd on the list and he said the dealer will sell it for MSRP. I will update when I hear more.

- GundamZ

EmilGH 11-21-2007 02:41 PM

Congrats! Are they making the commitment to carry the car?

gundamz 11-22-2007 11:46 AM

Commitment is a very big word for car dealer. He said he will update me when they know more about the timeframe and options. But when I asked about if they are planning to makeup the price, the sell manager said no. Then again, when corporate gives them the order to sell as high as they can, I am certain to wait.

CharlesJ 11-23-2007 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by gundamz (Post 3935)
Just got off the phone with a dealer. I am 3rd on the list and he said the dealer will sell it for MSRP. I will update when I hear more.

- GundamZ

Lock it in and then post the dealer name and location

GTRcHaRgEr 11-29-2007 02:09 AM

Yeah, let us know so far my nissan dealer in my city is telling me 2995 or msrp. I'll know more when time passes.

NERDJustBNME 11-30-2007 10:08 AM

I work for a Nissan dealership (Hall/Mile One) in Chesapeake, Virginia. Each store will be allocated GT-R's based on their Z sales. In my case my store will only get 2 GT-R's. Yesterday I was able to successfully take an order for a GT-R. He agreed to pay $20K over sticker and put down $10K in the form of a non-refundable deposit. I've never had a client so serious about buying a vehicle in my 6.5 year career as a sales consultant. I've taken pride in trying to know everything about the GT-R before it's release as well. There won't be too many dealers selling the GT-R at MSRP. If they tell you they are then be wary of them doing a silent auction closer towards it's relase date. Just thought you would like that helpful information.

EmilGH 11-30-2007 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by NERDJustBNME (Post 3997)
I work for a Nissan dealership (Hall/Mile One) in Chesapeake, Virginia. Each store will be allocated GT-R's based on their Z sales. In my case my store will only get 2 GT-R's. Yesterday I was able to successfully take an order for a GT-R. He agreed to pay $20K over sticker and put down $10K in the form of a non-refundable deposit. I've never had a client so serious about buying a vehicle in my 6.5 year career as a sales consultant. I've taken pride in trying to know everything about the GT-R before it's release as well. There won't be too many dealers selling the GT-R at MSRP. If they tell you they are then be wary of them doing a silent auction closer towards it's relase date. Just thought you would like that helpful information.

Congrats and thanks for sharing.

spt 11-30-2007 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by NERDJustBNME (Post 3997)
I work for a Nissan dealership (Hall/Mile One) in Chesapeake, Virginia. Each store will be allocated GT-R's based on their Z sales. In my case my store will only get 2 GT-R's. Yesterday I was able to successfully take an order for a GT-R. He agreed to pay $20K over sticker and put down $10K in the form of a non-refundable deposit. I've never had a client so serious about buying a vehicle in my 6.5 year career as a sales consultant. I've taken pride in trying to know everything about the GT-R before it's release as well. There won't be too many dealers selling the GT-R at MSRP. If they tell you they are then be wary of them doing a silent auction closer towards it's relase date. Just thought you would like that helpful information.


That is simply ridiculous. I have a feeling that Nissan won't stick by their 1500 cars per year limit because with the cost of R&D and everything else that has gone into this car, they would probably want to make their money back. I also think that once the hype dies down the prices will be back to normal. It has happened with the Evo, M5, and Exige/Elise and I believe it will happen with the GTR. Dealers will realize that there will only be a selective few who will be able to fork over the cash to pay for the outrageous mark ups. Once that group has bought their cars, dealer inventory will start to grow and will soon figure out that not everyone will pay for the markups. Eventually you will see each dealer competing to sell the car at a lower price (like msrp).

I could be wrong about this but I really do believe history will repeat itself.

CharlesJ 11-30-2007 11:08 AM

Back on track, please only post dealers selling at or extremely close to MSRP. This may not happen for the first round, but it will eventually

ScottsZ-0-6 01-02-2008 12:57 PM

I do not see Nissan dealers going under 10 - 20K over for a long time. They are being forced by Nissan to spend 50 grand just to sell the car. They must send at least 2 techs to Japan to learn how the car works. This is a HUGE leap for a dealer that is used to selling Sentras and Maximas for 30 grand. All the dealers that I spoke to are quite frankly not interested in even talking right now about the first 2 cars they get.

darstar007 01-08-2008 02:42 PM

I think 10-20 is too low a figure 30-40 is more like it, esp. out here in Cali.

wilgtr 01-14-2008 09:47 PM

but I heard GTR will only make three years then discontinous. I am not sure is that true?

ScottsZ-0-6 01-28-2008 09:31 AM

Not true. The GT-R has been make continually since 1989. Why on earth would nissan make a low production car wit ha 3 year lifespan? Makes no sense financially.

chosunman 01-31-2008 09:02 AM

No dealer will sell these at MSRP knowing how much hype the car is attracting right now. It's all supply demand, if there are people who's willing to pay 20k-30k, me being included, they will be sold to those people first. That's the beauty of capitalism

darstar007 01-31-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by chosunman (Post 4460)
No dealer will sell these at MSRP knowing how much hype the car is attracting right now. It's all supply demand, if there are people who's willing to pay 20k-30k, me being included, they will be sold to those people first. That's the beauty of capitalism


True, but underpricing this limited-edition car is just plain dishonest by Nissan.

sentrazac 01-31-2008 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by darstar007 (Post 4466)
True, but underpricing this limited-edition car is just plain dishonest by Nissan.

I don't know, that's like saying Garth Brooks (or his promoter) is dishonest for pricing the entire arena at $50.00 per ticket for his concerts, knowing that most of the good seats will end up in the hands of Ticket Brokers and be sold for hundreds if not thousands, depending on how good the seats are. He made people think they had a chance at getting them for $50.00, when in all reality, for anybody that's ever tried to get tickets through that awful website know damn well that you're lucky to even get tickets, let alone get GOOD tickets. But at least he gives the fans that slight chance. So would it be more honest of him to charge $500.00 a seat for the first 10 rows, since the supply is limited of those seats? Maybe Nissan should just put sticker at $100k? Would that be more honest of either of them? I don't think the dealers or Nissan are being dishonest. I have to agree with cho, it's all about supply and demand. Limited quantity + High Demand = High prices. Just like Cho said, capitalism. I personally think capitalism is a beautiful thing, being a self employed highly motivated individual that makes money off of market inefficiencies and high demand for certain products in the industry I work in.

Unlike Cho though, I don't think I'm willing to pay more than maybe 5k over sticker, if that much, so I'll probably end up driving the new Lexus ISF instead, but I'm not going to be bitter at Nissan or dealers for marking the car up. If the market will bear it, I can't blame them one bit.

darstar007 01-31-2008 06:03 PM

Not bitter at all. It's just a publicity stunt that I don't appreciate. All this "most affordable supercar ever". BS. By limiting production, Nissan knows damn well that the car won't sell for much less than $100K. If they pump up production eventually, I could change my opinion. I do understand them wanting to gouge folks who want to give their money away like it means nothing.

chosunman 02-01-2008 08:20 AM

Dude, the car is worth 100k, just look at the specs man!!!!! I'd sell one of my kids if I can have the car now

darstar007 02-01-2008 09:49 AM

Yeah, so is your Porsche. Big whoop. At $70K it's wayyyyy more interesting.

chosunman 02-08-2008 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by darstar007 (Post 4475)
Yeah, so is your Porsche. Big whoop. At $70K it's wayyyyy more interesting.

Don't be so bitter play boi, it's all in good fun:yumyum:

hamdog 02-08-2008 07:00 PM

I talked to about 15 dealers across the country today. Most of them did not give me a straight answer. They had not decided yet. I spoke with the general sales manager at a dealership in Arizona who told me he will end up no more than 10k over.
A dealer in VA has promised me a specific car with all options I want for 20k over. What do you guys think? If the R8 can sell 50k over, the GTR certainly should.

CharlesJ 02-11-2008 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by hamdog (Post 4522)
I talked to about 15 dealers across the country today. Most of them did not give me a straight answer. They had not decided yet. I spoke with the general sales manager at a dealership in Arizona who told me he will end up no more than 10k over.
A dealer in VA has promised me a specific car with all options I want for 20k over. What do you guys think? If the R8 can sell 50k over, the GTR certainly should.

The R8 is a completely different story. Well optioned, they have an MSRP of 130k and are a super car in every respect. A GTR is a great car for a great price, but not the same. Anything over 20k is just silly to me, and even at 20k, I'll wait.

BILL_HOOD_NISSAN 02-12-2008 09:33 AM

I am the General Sales Manager at Bill Hood Nissan in Hammond, Louisiana. We are allocated 3 GTRs for the first model year. I am in charge of handling the sale of these units. I am offering my first pre-sale at MSRP + $10,000. I have talked to several of my peers at surrounding dealerships, and they are all planning on asking 10 - 20 thousand over list. If anyone is interested, I will be glad to assist you.

rastmp 02-14-2008 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by BILL_HOOD_NISSAN (Post 4562)
I am the General Sales Manager at Bill Hood Nissan in Hammond, Louisiana. We are allocated 3 GTRs for the first model year. I am in charge of handling the sale of these units. I am offering my first pre-sale at MSRP + $10,000. I have talked to several of my peers at surrounding dealerships, and they are all planning on asking 10 - 20 thousand over list. If anyone is interested, I will be glad to assist you.

I'll be interested when you decide to represent Nisasan as a honest automobile company which it is....Your kind of dealerships will ruin sales and Nissan WILL pull the car from the US(think SUPRA etc.).
Our great country is heading into a economic depression.....WRONG time to rip people off...(Just some friendly advice)
Good Luck

BILL_HOOD_NISSAN 02-14-2008 11:02 AM

MSRP - Manufacturer SUGGESTED Retail Price

We sell cars all day every day BELOW INVOICE. Be glad to sell you a Titan for $10,000 off MSRP. Fortunately we do not have to do this with the GTR. Furthermore, anyone who is willing and able to drop $80,000 on a car is not worried about the "economic depression". Thanks for the advice though.

spt 02-14-2008 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by BILL_HOOD_NISSAN (Post 4615)
MSRP - Manufacturer SUGGESTED Retail Price

We sell cars all day every day BELOW INVOICE. Be glad to sell you a Titan for $10,000 off MSRP. Fortunately we do not have to do this with the GTR. Furthermore, anyone who is willing and able to drop $80,000 on a car is not worried about the "economic depression". Thanks for the advice though.

I agree that dealers are probably running into situations that after market part vendors are dealing with where everyone is basically trying find a part/car at the cheapest price. I do agree that it is natural for any business to use a product like the GTR to earn more revenue where they can by attaching a markup. With a high demand it's difficult not to do something like that especially when people are willing to pay.

The only thing that upsets me is the fact that some dealers really go so far in marking up this car that it loses its intended purpose of why Nissan made this car in the first place. It also tells me that they are willing to take advantage of people that don't know any better. A $10,000 markup is pretty reasonable on a car like this but I believe the real issues are with the ones charging $30k +. With a markup that high you are basically paying the same as you would have if you wanted a GT3 which wasn't in Nissan's plans to do so. I think the dealers charging the outrageous markups now are only hurting themselves in the long run. Eventually they will realize these cars are mass produced and if they get labeled as people charging big markups it will be difficult to change that image. It would probably mean they will have to discount the heck out of them which won't be good for existing owners and other dealers.

I think if you are unwilling to pay the markup just wait. The car will eventually come down in price. It happens with most cars and the GTR shouldn't be any different.

rastmp 02-14-2008 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by BILL_HOOD_NISSAN (Post 4615)
MSRP - Manufacturer SUGGESTED Retail Price

We sell cars all day every day BELOW INVOICE. Be glad to sell you a Titan for $10,000 off MSRP. Fortunately we do not have to do this with the GTR. Furthermore, anyone who is willing and able to drop $80,000 on a car is not worried about the "economic depression". Thanks for the advice though.


Good Luck on Your sales..Hope You make a lot of money for the dealership..
I'll stick with my Crown Vic for now...

rastmp 02-14-2008 11:48 AM

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[quote=spt;4616]I agree that dealers are probably running into situations that after market part vendors are dealing with where everyone is basically trying find a part/car at the cheapest price. I do agree that it is natural for any business to use a product like the GTR to earn more revenue where they can by attaching a markup. With a high demand it's difficult not to do something like that especially when people are willing to pay.

The only thing that upsets me is the fact that some dealers really go so far in marking up this car that it loses its intended purpose of why Nissan made this car in the first place. It also tells me that they are willing to take advantage of people that don't know any better. A $10,000 markup is pretty reasonable on a car like this but I believe the real issues are with the ones charging $30k +. With a markup that high you are basically paying the same as you would have if you wanted a GT3 which wasn't in Nissan's plans to do so. I think the dealers charging the outrageous markups now are only hurting themselves in the long run. Eventually they will realize these cars are mass produced and if they get labeled as people charging big markups it will be difficult to change that image. It would probably mean they will have to discount the heck out of them which won't be good for existing owners and other dealers.

I think it would be a great idea to produce a sticky list of 'Super markup greedy dealers', so that we can avoid doing business with them....when prices come down to MSRP..
Just a thought...?

spt 02-14-2008 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by rastmp (Post 4619)

I think it would be a great idea to produce a sticky list of 'Super markup greedy dealers', so that we can avoid doing business with them....when prices come down to MSRP..
Just a thought...?


I rather just list the dealers that are selling the cars at a reasonable price. There's no sense in bringing more attention to the ones that don't deserve it. Plus it will make it easier for the person looking to buy a GTR to see a list of where they should go rather then where they shouldn't .

rastmp 02-14-2008 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by spt (Post 4620)
I rather just list the dealers that are selling the cars at a reasonable price. There's no sense in bringing more attention to the ones that don't deserve it. Plus it will make it easier for the person looking to buy a GTR to see a list of where they should go rather then where they shouldn't .


You are correct....Good idea...

darstar007 02-14-2008 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by spt (Post 4616)
I agree that dealers are probably running into situations that after market part vendors are dealing with where everyone is basically trying find a part/car at the cheapest price. I do agree that it is natural for any business to use a product like the GTR to earn more revenue where they can by attaching a markup. With a high demand it's difficult not to do something like that especially when people are willing to pay.

The only thing that upsets me is the fact that some dealers really go so far in marking up this car that it loses its intended purpose of why Nissan made this car in the first place. It also tells me that they are willing to take advantage of people that don't know any better. A $10,000 markup is pretty reasonable on a car like this but I believe the real issues are with the ones charging $30k +. With a markup that high you are basically paying the same as you would have if you wanted a GT3 which wasn't in Nissan's plans to do so. I think the dealers charging the outrageous markups now are only hurting themselves in the long run. Eventually they will realize these cars are mass produced and if they get labeled as people charging big markups it will be difficult to change that image. It would probably mean they will have to discount the heck out of them which won't be good for existing owners and other dealers.

I think if you are unwilling to pay the markup just wait. The car will eventually come down in price. It happens with most cars and the GTR shouldn't be any different.


I agree, except in this case, I blame Nissan more than the dealers. For them to be producing 1500 for the US market and expecting a car that performs like a GT3 to sell for anything close to MSRP is a joke. BTW, I think $10K over MSRP is verrry reasonable. Here in Silicon Valley they are quoting $60K over MSRP!!!

GTRwannabe 02-14-2008 04:29 PM

that is very true to blame nissan for making very few but hey what can we do right... Im just hoping i can find one at only 10k over, ill prob be looking in utah because i know there is no way to find one at that price in california.

basicallyevolve 02-14-2008 11:40 PM

Hey charles,

I just read your post about asking what dealer is selling sticker price.

I can tell you now that i found a dealer that is willing to sell it sticker price to me and i just want to see if they will stand by their word before i tell everyone .

But i know for a fact that the las Vegas dealer is selling the car for 10k mark up. They will be getting 15-16 GT-R's and said 10k no more no less... so since they are getting 15 of them they can sell it for even less then 10k mark up im sure of it.

Once i get some feedback from the 2 dealers that told me they would try to work sticker with me i will let you know.

Till then I've called over 40 dealers and Vegas is the way to go.


These dealers think they are gonna sell them for 10-30 k mark up. i can bet you that they will not for sure. When my Evolution 8 MR came out in October of 04 they wanted 35,600 MSRP + 20k mark up for it because only 1200 were sent to the US and it was the 6 speed demon of the road. I got mine the first day for sticker price because im a smart shopper. ONLY IDIOTS would pay 20-30 k mark up for a crappy Nissan. If a dealer wants that kind of money... well im sorry.. id rather drive a Porsche. Nissan made this car for Car fanatics like myself. thats why they valued it at 71,900. Let these dealers think they can sell it for 10-30 k mark up and play all the games they want. When these cars sit in their lot for 3-4 months while other dealers sold out in the first week because they sold it for anywhere from MSRP to 7-8k mark up the overpriced dealers will regret it. REMEMBER 1 year from now the VSPEC will come out and this will be the same old BS story. Dealers who took forever to sell them compared to dealers who sold out in a week will get 6-15 VSpecs while dealers who played the I want more money because this car was discontinued game i want 30k mark up will only get 1-3.


Nissan wants to sell this car.. and will give the VSPEC to dealers who DIshed out the GT-R to the public the fastest because thats what nissan is all about and has always been about . Customer satisfaction ( the smile a GT-R Driver gets when driving his car )

Not spending 30k mark up to drive it out the lot and the cars value drops from 71,900 to 60k because you already put miles on it. HOw would it feel to be driving a car you can resell for 60 k in a few months BUT you owe 80 - 100k on it.

GET REAL DEALERS>



Again i will inform you if the 2 dealers i talked to hold up to their words.

Thanks

-Art

CharlesJ 02-15-2008 08:33 AM

I really believe the reality will be the people that want the absolute first ones will pay the dumb markups, but by the time of the second batch, everything will be more realistic. By later this year, we will probably be looking at no markups anywhere

GTRwannabe 02-15-2008 01:06 PM

lets just hope that there will be no markups then.. because thats when i plan to buy one.

996twint 02-15-2008 08:19 PM

One local dealer wanted $30k over sticker. For that much I'm close to a GT3 or a used 2007 Turbo. So far the cheapest I found is $10k over. I refuse to pay over sticker for any car!
I'm going to contact Nissan on Monday regarding what their spokesman was quoted saying in the Edmunds article. I will definitely complain about the dealers I spoke with.
That being said I will order if I can find one at sticker.

basicallyevolve 02-15-2008 09:47 PM

Im with you there on that.

I refuse to pay mark up for any car. Even if it has been discontinued for several years.
My friend who has a 1998 skyline that is fully modified is a rich. His name is Daniel Suh. You can google him if you want. I am doing the shopping for myself and him. He will not pay a penny over mark up and neither will I. we are both smarter shoppers and will wait for the demand to go down and prices to drop like they did on the EVO. I have told every dealer i have spoke to that " if they give me the car for sticker price i am basically purchasing 2. My friend is looking for one and so am I. My friend will buy the car full cash and i will finance." ... these dealers are so stuck up they think they can sell these cars for 20-30k mark up and will try to. I have told every dealer that when you get this car in your lot you call me i will be there the same day to buy pick up 2. One full Cash and one finance, And thats like a joke to them now. If you had told any other dealer that for any other car they would have kissed your ass asked if you wanted a ride to the dealer and probably have gone under MSRP a bit.

I think i will also wait to see how this goes and will send in my complaints as well because this is not customer service. This is raping people in the ass for a quick buck. maybe My friend and i should just go get 911 turbo's . im sure they will treat us better and give us better deals this these Nissan dealers who all of a sudden think they are cool cause japan gave them Some GT-R's they know nothing about. While car fanatics like us have been waiting years and years to get our hands on one and have known about GT-R's for over 10+ years.

All i know is .. i will get mine sticker price. Even if i have to take my business out of LA. If LA wants to rape us... I say let them go screw themselves . We will give our business to dealers who actually have had nice cars in their inventory and not dealers who all of a sudden got a nice car and think they are the Sh!t.

Thanks

Art

ROYALNISSAN.KYLEVERLANDER 02-16-2008 07:13 AM

Royal Nissan Baton Rouge, LA. We currently have 5 GTR's available for pre sale. We are accepting any reasonable offers over MSRP. While other dealers are price gauging, (10k -30k) over,we are just trying to roll these units out.

darstar007 02-16-2008 10:55 AM

It all comes down to if Nissan will ever produce more than 1500 cars for the US market. If it does, we "MSRP" guys should eventually win out. If supply remains limited then all bets are off. Of course, as great as the GT-R is, it will inevitably be met by the competition and not stand out as much as it does now.

Also, Nissan does not want to get into Porsche territory in pricing, they will lose big time. Status is status.


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