Corvette ZR1 trumps GTR
 

As you probaly know by now the Corvette ZR1 just recorded a lap time of 7:26.

but the thing about that lap time was.. it was WITHOUT a proffessional driver. GM looks to take another 2-3 seconds off that time with a real driver.

your thoughts?

Uh, the ZR1 should be able to beat the GTR (given that the price is about 30k more). A GTR with modifications of $30k could easily hang with a ZR1. :D

Heres what I think =).

GTR > Z06

ZR1> GTR

GTR SPEC V > ZR1

the Gtr got 7:29 around the the track.. 3 seconds slower then a corvette that Costs 100k and has almost 200 more horsepower. I think thats pretty sad to be honest. Put 20 more horsepower on a GTR ( intake / Exhaust ) and it will beat a ZR1 Around the Ring.

But lets talk stock so i dont have to read complaints. The Spec V will rape the ZR1 around the track ( lighter and more horsepower then the Normal GTR)

What do you think about that :|..

Yes indeed.

I like that the original poster just joined this (and probably several other GTR forums) just to try to piss us off...

The ZR1's lap time is impressive. Anything that can lap the ring in that time gets my respect. I'm not a huge corvette fan, but I still can respect the car and it's achievements.

Actually
 

i did join this site to post this topic specifically.


but not because i hate the car or am a corvette cheerleader.

i myself drive a honda.


i am buying a new car soon and would like to know what the enthusiast view on the car was.

and honestly, id be suprised if the V came out and really did beat the ZR1.

mainly because the gap wont be all that great, and the Zr1 is still looking to get a better time.

Ok man... now you are sounding ignorant... like ... REALLY IGNORANT.. Z06 compared to the ZR1 is a big leap.. and a big time difference.. with a 30k difference. Do you really think they would make a Spec V and make it 3 seconds faster around a track>? Cmon man .. Get real. The Spec V will pull numbers under 7:20 Ill put my name on it, AGAIN, i Cant stress enough ... 480 HP vs 650 and 3 seconds difference ANDDDD the GTR is like 3900 pounds vs whaT??? 3300???? GIVE ME A BREAK..

Your fighting a losing battle man.. /quit

If you're a honda fan boy, you should be making claims about the new NSX... :lol:

we should also remember that the 480hp on the gt-r is an underestimate, there are varying estimates of actual numbers, but keep that in mind.

either way, this race between (modestly) affordable supercars is awesome to follow and its rewarding to see how it will eventually play out

im not ignorant and im not against the GTR.

i am a fan of American Cars and Japanese cars. i really dont care which one wins, but again, if you look at the high performance cars which have run the ring' before, more hp. and lighter weight doesnt always mean a better time.

it will be fast but i would be genuinly suprised if it came out on top, especially as Porsche is now designing a New 911 for the sole purpose of taking back the ring.

i think nissan knows about other factories like chevy, porsche, toyota
will respond for the gtr..
thats why they have the spec V..
the stock gtr vs z06 in the Nur = 13sec difference
with the stock Gtr having 700lbs more..
what will a lighter, and more powerful GTR will do??
its simple as
1+1=11 lol
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Hey you must be the smartest kid at your college... Cars that have alot of horsepower that run slow times right>? Again your ignorance shines beyond everyones expectations..

Let me show you how Math works..

GTR = 7:29
Z06 = 7:43
ZR1 = 7:26
You think they will make a Spec V.. Which IS THE SAME CAR!.. with more horsepower and Lighter parts and better design.. AND MAKE IT SLOWER!??!? what is wrong with you? when your heard the ZR1 was coming out did u think it was gonna run slower the Z06? how stupid are your really?? because im waiting for another retarded post by you that makes no sense at all now..

SPEC V > ZR1 deal with it... Its not even out and everyone knows it will beat the ZR1 because like the post before this one SAYS! 1 + 1 . SIMPLE MATH

ZR1 is 3 seconds faster then a car that is 3900 pounds and has 180 less HP.. Wait till the Spec V hands Chevy its ass .

I think the ZR1 will get better times with better drivers, and i also think that the V spec will provide some crazy fast times. The more competition there is at the ring, the faster cars are gonna get...so let the ZR1 bring on faster times to raise the bar.

Keep in mind that the ZR1 did get put into the wall on it's second lap attempt to beat the GTR time...(this is according to a corvette forum, I haven't found the actual report on this).

In my opinion the GTR (v spec) has more room to get faster times than the ZR1...

ZR1-Z06-C6
GTR

The Corvette is already on the 3rd stage when the GTR is on its 1st. C6 does not even have a posted time, beats the Z06 by 13sec and loses to the ZR1 by 3 sec with similar specs to a race car.

i never said it would be slower.

you call me stupid? learn how to read.

but the GTR-V hasnt done ANYTHING yet, so worship it all you want, but it has accomplished the same as my Accord.

oh and thank you for helping me decide on which car to invest in. With the people who love this car being such tools i can only imagine how horrible it would be to be associated with you.

i would be genuinly embarrassed.

ill come back with my porsche and leave you guys a nice comment when your picking up the pieces of your jap crap again talking about "The next one"

Rofl he is gonna go from a Accord to a porsche. Nice...

...keep dreaming about anything better than your 94 accord. Maybe, just MAYBE your next car will be an altima!

You expect people to bow down to a ZR1 on a GTR forum? Are you really that impaired? I've been level headed regarding the ZR1, and like I already mentioned; it's a great car. But the ZR1 will reach terminal velocity well before the GTR.

The same flaming (but worse) happens daily over on the corvette forums when someone brings up the GTR. Please pull your brain out of your rear end. You make yourself and ZR1 fan boys look like :waglleybo.

:smilie_th :lol:
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Actualy my father bought me that car for my 16th.

ive already got a Z06, but its modded to the pt. where id be LOOKING to line up against a GTR.

but jesus chrissssst.

wont nissan come out and just tell everyone that stupid car has 550-600 hp??? or are they just going to pretend that its that fast due to "technology"

by the way ricer.

id be SHOCKED if there was any trash talking being done in a corvette forum about the GTR these days.

i mean what would you say??


uhhhhhhh.... our car comes in automatic!!!!

So I'm a "ricer" eh? :lol: Call me what you will.

I doubt you have a Z06, so just stop. Why wouldn't you have listed that as your car (as opposed to your daddy's "ricer" accord)? Oh and congrats on the drivers license though...that's really quite the accomplishment for someone of your caliber.

As far as you being shocked...get ready to be shocked: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2063806

And last but not least, you consider the GTR to be an automatic? So I guess indy cars and many other race cars are also "automatics" as you say? Bwaaaaha!!

Get used to what the tail-lights look like on the GTR, because that is all you're gonna see on the track.:waglleybo

Keep on posting here. It's entertaining. I rarely get to see someone so ignorant on this site...people like YOU make the corvette look bad. Other than your association with it, it's a nice car.

This guy is just ignorant man. No point in responding to someone who says apples taste like oranges.

Ignorance is bliss and its name is Congoman775.

Simple as that.

actualy i too enjoy the engagement. thus my continuation.


and if i had listed my Car as a Z06 do you think i could have come into this forum without immediately being labeled a Corvette man? HINT HINT- i came into this with the GTR as a prospective purchase.


ahhh-derh.


and yes. let me quote the Nissan.com refferance to the GTR.

"Fully Automautic Shifting"

God you guys should really inform Nissan that they screwed up!!!

Keep it up fan boy. You're making corvette owners proud!:smilie_th

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guys, stop feeding the troll

http://brentroos.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/troll.jpg

What about these numbers from Aug C&D Review?
GTR 1/4 mile 12.6 @ 111mph
Z06 11.9 @124mph

GTR 0-150 26.6 seconds
Z06 0-150 17.9 seconds

NINE seconds slower to 150.... it looks like its gonna take a lot more than a Vspec to keep up with a normal Z06. Maybe Nissan should put a US production GTR on the ring.
Remember what I told you about the ACR viper??
Looks like I was right again
Viper 1:55
GTR 2.01

You bring up good and valid points, however the GTR IMO is not a good dragster...Yeah it can launch, but carrying AWD in a straight line just isn't impressive. On the other hand, put several turns in the quarter mile and the GTR is all over it (not to say that the vette is aweful at slaloming though...).

So if the Z06 has a 9sec advantage in accelerating (about 1-2sec while on a track on the straights) then why is it 13 sec slower than the gtr? There is proof that the car does a sub 12sec time. There is a video online of a guy doing it in 11.8 at 121mph on US soil.

Car & Driver has tested 4 GTR's now and the results are not good. They have times all over the place for 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

The GTR, with launch control, semi-auto dual clutch gearbox and AWD should be the most consistent 0-60 and 1/4 mile car around. Not to mention the sophisticated engine management computer which should keep a very tight reign on engine operating conditions (also meaning power outputs from GTR's should be very close under the same conditions).

My grandma should be able to get the exact same times as a professional driver. There's no skill involved or required except to put your foot down and go.


It's the earlier press cars that are faster than the latest, production (for sale in US) cars.

Why do you think this is?

In all your "research", did you notice which mags used the launch control to obtain the 0-60 times?? :D

Ring times and the stig offer better comparos (IMO) than the magazines anyways...that's not to say that I completely disregard the magazines. They still offer good comparisons, but i have found lots of flaws in their methodology. One would be foolish to throw all trust in those comparisons.

Its always going to be battle for a better time. It will continue to flipflop between companies. The GTR will stand as my favorite no matter who holds the lap record.
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13 seconds slower where? I never said the GTR wasnt capable of sub 12 sec 1/4 mile times. There are also videos of guy in stock Z06s running high 10s, what your point. In the test with the ACR, GTR, GT2 and Z06, the Z06 is the only car not running good tires for a track event.

Anybody know if that statement about using lanch control and losing your warantee is true?

Did you actually read my post? I was speaking specifically about Car & Driver and the fact they have tested several GTR's. They made comments themselves in their articles wondering why the cars were running such inconsistent times. They brought it up - I'm just repeating what they've noticed.

I don't think it would void the warranty. It's a feature the manufacturer has implemented so how could they then void warranty if you use that feature? More likely is that they'd remove launch control altogether.

Sorry, but I don't look at commercialized magazines for "facts" regarding cars (not to say that they aren't useful though); hence I'm unfamiliar with these specific results. Did they specifically state that in each of those tests they all used launch control? Because if they didn't, then I would see why there is such a difference in their times. People usually think that launching an AWD car is easier than RWD, but without launch control AWD cars are notorious for differing times, especially the 60 foot times in the quarter mile. On the other hand, if they all were properly using launch control and there are still wide ranges of times, then I am very surprised. Most of the reviews that I've encountered have raved about the GTR's consistancy, not lack thereof. Personally though, I'll reserve my judgement till I have track time in one.

The new Car and Driver tested the GTR and came up with a 4.0+ 0-60 time.


ouch.

of course, the winner of the challenge was another american car.

the viper ACR.

HA!!!!!


so you look at rumors over the internet???


Nissan cant even get its HP numbers straight. why not belive the people that have nothing to gain/loose by rating these cars.

what are you a sheep?

Nissan says it does 300mph. It does 300 mph.

OUCH!>.. this poor fool...


If i saw the video Correctly THe GTR WON 1st place..


http://youtube.com/watch?v=cyesMboupuU


There you go just to shut your mouth.. But i know it wont close cause you say apples taste like oranges... Ignorance man..Its a Bliss with you

Nice try, but re-read my last statement. Thank you, come again.