gone from an R32 to an R33 gtr
 

sold my R32 gtr the other week, and bought this as her replacement:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a31...rV-spec026.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a31...rV-spec040.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a31...rV-spec032.jpg

Nice, but I would have keeped the R32 :smilie_th

cheers, but this is so much better in EVERY way:D :D :D

Your R32 must have been trashed;)

Been in a Few R33s, still love my R32s much better.

nice ride. beautiful.

i'd like one of each: 32, 33, 34.

Nah, it was mint, and had a fortune spent on her - almost perfect in every way, but.............................the R33 surpasses it in every concieveable aspect (except quietness:D :D )

steve

Me too, I did have both the R32 and R33 at the same time, but a growing family means it wasn't practical,, so an MPV is on the cards to keep everybody else happy (including the neighbours:D :D )

here's a pic of my old R32, then, just to keep you happy!!!:spit:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a31...pfest06046.jpg

i think, just maybe, you're exaggerating about the R33. for me, the styling of it in no way surpasses the R32. but that is my opinion. the R33 is very much a whale compared to the others. but whatever works for you. i know you're proud of it, and should be. it's a beautiful car. but i feel you're a bit over-the-top. :uppydown3

for me, the R32 is still the quintessential GTR, but for my personal situation, the R33 is just more refined in day-to-day driving circumstances.

The R32 was the original GT-R:smilie_th :) :D , and although it evolved into the R33 and R34 (and in some ways - the Proto, too) it's raw-racer abilities have never been surpassed (even by Nissan themselves).

i understand and agree. you have a family. the R33 is, then, far more practical really. it's bigger. the R32 is pretty cramped. you've done up your 33 well. your choice of Nismo wheels is excellent. and the color is gorgeous. the R32, although a 4-seater, is highly impractical as a family commuter. it might as well be a 2-seater.

I do admit your R33 is very nice.

Your R32 pic, was that at JapFest? I have seen it some where when I use to go the Skyline events.

I would not bother with that 10 of the best crap. I like the cars and the people, but the event itself just sucks, for what they charge.

yeah it was at Japfest, which as you rightly point out, is a cracking show. Managed to get on the club stand of the GTROC, too, which was pretty awesome.

I can't take any credit for the R33, at the moment, as all the work / mods were done by previous owners, but it won't stay like that forever:D

visit www.gtr.co.uk if you haven't already - it's a minefield of information for the entire globe.

Been there many of times, when you live in England that is the go too place, that and skylineowners of course :)

I live in Wiltshire.

i'm already a member of gtr.co.uk. joined up about 2 months ago or so when i officially became an owner.

man they are both freakin bad, props to ya.

darn american gov...so incredibly hard to get GT-Rs over here...i'd like a R33! i found one in Japan for 1,390,000 yen, or approx $13,000 USD, but that's not counting legalizing, shipping, etc. damn feds...lucky you man!

but...

you can legally import an entire R33 car into the USA, put together.

R32 must be a rolling chassis only.

R34 is banned under all conditions.

but...

you cannot legalize any of them for DOT public road use.

....unless you import them with original paperwork as a non-VIN# "project/kit car."

(hint hint):smilie_th

tell me more about it....here's a link to the site:
click!
and the car:
R33!

from the very beginning, you must have all paperwork match. and the car must be imported as a project. not salvage. but project. and it must be dismantled to a rolling chassis only. this is vital or you will have to send the car back after a short time.

trust me.

and even at that, the car will not be road-legal. at least it probably will not be able to be legalized in any event. so don't even go there. buy a pickup truck and trailer when you buy the skyline. because that is the only way it will get around town.

oh thanks. damn that is GAY. i dont think i will buy that anytime soon...maybe when skylines, or certain skylines, are made road legal. thanks a bunch man!

in 25 years from date of manufacture, car is exempt. in 10 years, the oldest R32s will be exempt. so there is hope.

you can import an R30 without any problem with the DOT or EPA. i've seen it done.

my case: i had car dismantled to rolling chassis. and i had the rest of the car imported, too, as parts. but there is a catch to this. but....

the rest i will not disclose to protect others.

So, you have to ship it back out of the coutry after the first year, right? Its been a while since I read up on the stuff.

Is there any way you can keep in country as a race only vehical?

I was planning on bring back the V8 GTR.

unless you import it as a "project vehicle, " as in a kit car, on a rolling chassis only, any other way requires you are only on temporary status with the vehicle. example would be sponsor or billboard car for a race team or manufacturer of aft-market parts.

must be a "project." and it must be dismantled to the rolling chassis. you can keep the harnesses intact. but all drivetrain, interior, and running gear must be removed. only wheels are allowed on chassis so it can be rolled. and the wheels must not be OEM wheels for the car, either. you can keep the front and rear glass in the car.

you must dismantle your car to import to USA. and you cannot legally have the parts imported as the same shipment. because technically that is the "whole car" under the law. your parts must be taken on another day, on another container, by another means. and best to be imported by a different company to be safe.

that is the basic idea. i'm not a lawyer, so only take what i say as 2nd hand news. but that is the path i followed and obeyed. and i have the car. yes, it is a pain in the ass. and you cannot get it legalized to drive on public roads unless you find a state in the union that allows for kit car, non VIN# vehicles. and that is very dodgy because then you run risk of revealing what you have and how you came about getting it. so best keep it track-only.

that is the best we can do at this point.

in brief, you can have an R32 if you have it dismantled to rolling chassis. but all parts cannot be shipped with it. and it pretty much has no chance of being DOT legal.

you can keep the R33 intact for shipping, but it cannot be "legalized" for DOT certification.

you cannot import an R34 under any condtions. it is totally banned.

So, If I import it as a rolling shell, build it in the states, I can keep it as long as I want for a track car.

Not a pain at all. With the V8 conversion done, I should be able to put it all back together in a day :)

Thanks,
Tony

just work it out with your importer. they will know more than i the specifics of shipping and how to do it correctly.

Wow, this really has got off topic:D .

Anyway, I'll just keep this ball rolling - WHAT EXACTLY is it about the GT-R that the US government despise so much to outlaw it (completely in the case of the R34)??????????:smilieth Boo-Hiss to your government.

You say that we're a lucky bunch over here, but I beg to differ - our gas costs about 500% more than yours, you get awesome cars like the GMC Syclone, Cars are cheaper, even from new, and you don't have to pay a tax every year, just to own your own vehicle!!! (or television for that matter)

GT-R's appear not to be outlawed in Canada, is there a loophole you could exploit, there??

Steve:)

i guess the auto related deaths in america are pretty high, and eliminating street racing is one way of attempting to lower that. i guess emmisions is a problem, but that can be converted, albeit at a cost, but i'd pay almost anything to get me a GT-R over here. i dont know this is my 2 cents...i heard from my friend when he went to germany for an exchange program in college that if you are caught DUI then you get your license suspended for 21 years or something. and tickets are supposed to be really expensive over there. i guess that's the catch for no speed limit autobahns.

what was the topic? i thought it was importation of GTRs :confused: :uppydown3

uuhmmm. american road conditions tend to be --conservative? prone to street racing? a combination of revenue-raising local governments, tax-collecting feds on imports, the EPA, the DOT --all want money. it really comes to $$$. as well, the "crash saftey" standards are supposedly becoming ever more stringent. and in general, the JDM GTR never remotely lived up to any USDM certification standards.

but there was a time when you could legalize them yourself. but that was so cost prohibitive that it was nearly impossible. so MotoRex stepped in to revolutionize this idea. but they got greedy and only crash-tested the R33 GTR. so that is why you can import one --put together as a complete car.

needless to say, the claim that MotoRex made that it had tested ALL GTRs was fraudulent. they were then pocketing hundreds of thousands of dollars to "certify" uncertifiable cars. but the customers had no idea. so if you bought an R32GTR through them, you were not getting a car any more legal than had you black-marketed it yourself.

to make a long story short, the feds caught on to this and the owner of MotoRex now sits in jail; however the DOT allows all GTRs that "made it" as "certified," prior to the demise of MotoRex, to remain "legalized." so the lucky and rare few who have them are in a very small minority. and on occasion, a US-legal GTR goes for sale on ebay or in the auto traders.

i've left out a lot of details, no doubt, and skipped around. but that is the basic reason. so now, in a punishment sort of response to the entire fraud scheme of MotoRex --lo and behold-- for the most part-- all GTRs are pretty much banned. there is a literal 100% ban on the R34? why? it was never crash-tested or made to comply; it's the most sought after GTR and the rarest of the R-series (gulp, i think:confused:) R32 is banned from being imported, too --except for a "rolling chassis." why? it never complied, never was tested (as in the case of the R34), and is highly sought after as well. and is the "cheapest" of the big 3. so it's banned.

the R33 was crash-tested. but good luck on getting it US-legal. that must now be done by the individual. and it costs tens of thousands of dollars. and there is still no guarantee it can be done.

if anyone else has knowledge of this entire nightmare, please post. i know i don't know the whole picture. my picture is what i pieced together from tuner gossip (very 1st source gossip, mind you. there are things i am not going to reveal), and online chats.

bottom line: MONEY TALKS. if you want a GTR --you can get one no matter what, but you must have CASH. and it must be shown in front of people.

that is where i will stop.

That paint is looking nice. I count it as an upgrade.
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