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Old 08-14-2005, 12:46 PM
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Ford XR6 Turbo

i found this aussie site interesting. i kind of like this car, the Ford XR6-t.

http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/

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Old 08-27-2005, 12:04 PM
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That is nice.
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Old 08-27-2005, 12:50 PM
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yes. i thought so. it reminds me of the GTO/ Monaro.

look at what the goodies our aussie comrades get, and we don't get. at least for a short while, we got the "GTO" (beefed up Holden Monaro). and unfortunately, the USDM GTO/ Monaro will go out of production next year --they just start getting it sweet, with nice design upgrades and power upgrades, then they axe it. that happened, too, to the Pontiac Fiero on the late 1980s: they got it right-on the year they discontinued it. it was just getting good, then was discontinued.

i suppose this is what drives people, with the means to do so, to collect cars: they can have pieces of history that would otherwise go largely forgotten among the masses of consumers. i would love to have a GTO, for example. a new one. i don't care what the haters say, i like it.

i find it apalling when the united states auto-makers have a short run of a really cool platform, a RWD one, only then to re-tool the factory to make a subsequent watered-down FWD version of it.

like the Impala SS, for example: what a blasphemy and letdown to have it reissued as a FWD. such a thing is heretical blasphemy, and an afront to the nameplate.

a victory for the USDM is the success story of the newest Mustang. and the new Magnum and 300s. and Charger. those are bad a$$ american muscle cars within reach of middle-income buyers. really stout and angry-looking, gas guzzling behemoths. awesome.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:41 AM
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The engine in that thing is phenomenal. 1000+hp capable!
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Awesome, simply awesome. Ford Australia has held nothing back with the release of its new Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo and the result is good enough for it to become the next cult car. Consider the XR6T 'big picture' for a moment; here's a freshly styled full size sedan with a modern tech turbocharged engine capable of 240kW and enough low-to-mid range torque to make a big 5.7-litre V8 cry.

And - to really stir a commotion - the 5-speed manual XR6 Turbo kicks off at only $43,965!

The new turbo engine is fantastic; it offers good throttle response (at least as good as any other turbo car on the market) and it's supremely flexible at all revs. No need to row gears in the XR turbo because with a 450Nm torque plateau available between 2000 - 4500 rpm she'll pull away instantly. Oddly, though, the engine is dead easy to stall when gently driving away from a standing start - you need a few revs onboard before you release the clutch pedal. Reaching to the other end of the rev range, the big six feels strong to just over 5000 rpm and there's only minimal vibration through to the rev limiter. Note that the rev limiter varies from about 5800 and 6200 rpm depending on conditions and, therefore, there's no redline marked on the tacho.

Certainly, the 4.0-litre turbo (dubbed 240T) is an engine worth getting excited over. Ford has treated their long-standing 4.0-litre design to a 24-valve twin-cam head with variable inlet and exhaust cam timing (VCT), roller bearing GT40 Garrett turbocharger, Garrett front-mount air-to-air intercooler, Bosch blow-off valve and electronic throttle control. It is truly a quantum leap over anything in the previous Falcon range. For maximum drivability there's a relatively high 8.7:1 static compression ratio combined with very mild boost pressure. With the turbo set to deliver just 6 psi, the new engine can stomp out 240kW at 5250 rpm and a very handy 450Nm from 2000 through to 4500 rpm. Who said all turbo engines are peaky?!

Unfortunately, the rest of the XR6T driveline feels like it's from a previous era of muscle cars...

The standard BTR T5 5-speed manual gearbox whines and growls while, out back, the diff clunks and snatches as you get on and off the power. With barely 4,000 kilometres on the clock of our test car we can't help wonder how tired it'll feel at, say, 40,000 kays. Lucky there's a 3-year/100,000-kilometre warranty... The clutch pedal is slightly heavier than your average car but, considering the torque it has to live with, that's perfectly excusable. Note that an automatic sequential sports shift version of the XR6T is also available.

You can't help admire how effortlessly the XR6 Turbo 5-speed can outrun the fabled Impreza WRX and run alongside a 5.7-litre Commodore. Giving it just a gentle launch with two people onboard we hand-timed a 0 - 100 km/h sprint in 6.6-seconds. With a bit of practice, though, we reckon the XR could crack 6-seconds flat - seriously cookin'.

As you'd expect, hauling around the 1732-kilogram kerb mass at such pace does drain the 68-litre fuel tank pretty rapidly. However, averaged over typical city/urban driving, we returned a consumption figure of about 15-litres per 100 kilometres (with optimal performance coming from premium unleaded fuel). Note that the turbo Falc will allow you to reach quite decent economy figures if you drive it gently - there isn't the constant frictional losses associated with a big cube V8.

The new Control Blade independent rear suspension - despite the controversy surrounding it - performs remarkably well. The turbo 4.0-litre gets its goods to the bitumen very effectively (unless provoked into doing something antisocial) and the rear feels well tied down through corners. Initial turn-in response is good, typically followed by slight understeer and - a little further through - the chassis will happily accept early application of the afterburner. Mid-corner throttle modulation shows excellent front-to-rear handling balance, while the standard Dunlop SP Sport 3000 235/45 17s inspire with a high level of grip.

The standard diff on the XR6T is a ratchet-style limited slip unit with the added effectiveness of electronic traction control. The traction system performs very well in the majority of instances but it is still possible to degenerate into bulk wheelspin; it's not the sort of traction control that makes this a car you could safely let anyone drive in any condition.

Not surprisingly, the suspension settings are firmer than you'll find in the cooking model Falcons but, overall, the ride is exceptional; there's absolutely no uncomfortable harshness over any normal road surfaces. A top job by the Ford engineers.

The XR6T's power rack and pinion steering arrangement is nicely weighted and doesn't tramline, but - like many cars in this class - there is some on-centre vagueness. The standard ABS brakes on the XR6T also do a fine job overall, though - given the low base price - we'd highly recommend buyers hand over an extra $2950 for the premium brake upgrade. This will improve safety, retained value and - of course - provides something else to stand back and perve at. The giant anchors would also be better suited to towing large loads; Ford say the XR6T manual is good for lugging up to 1200 kilograms, while the auto version is rated anywhere up to 1600 kilograms.

Comments from a Targa Tasmania Ace...

Consistent Targa Tasmania front-runner and ex-GT-R racer, Craig Dean, had some interesting driving impressions of the XR6T.

Craig admired the smoothness and progression of the engine, the steering direction, the chassis' ability to put the power down and the evenness of the drive - a feeling similar to having a Torsen-type diff. On the other hand, he thought the gear lever was positioned too far to the left, the gearshift was slow and the car plough understeered while cornering over a corrugated surface. He also added that an extra 1000 rpm of top-end torque would be nice; "something like in my twin-turbo race Supra"...

And now onto the XR6 Turbo's body and interior...

Ford has made monumental improvements with the appeal of the new Falcon range. The BA is distinguished by its quad front headlights (which also happen to perform very well) and classy rear-end, while the Turbo model catches the eye with a tasteful body kit, driving lights, a chrome oval exhaust tip and 17 x 8 alloys. The lightening straight-line performance is given away by TURBO lettering on the bootlid and the intercooler nestled in the front air dam. Oh, and you'll be pleased to hear the XR6 body kit causes no ground clearance issues - not like one other local six-cylinder winged warrior recently tested...

Onboard, the XR turbo offers abundant space, excellent comfort and plenty of features. Like all BAs, there's plenty of headroom above the cranium of a 190cm tall front occupant and - with the seat slid back - there's so much legroom it's almost impossible for your feet to touch the firewall... In the rear there's also plenty of headroom for people up to about 190cm, plus generous shoulder, knee and foot space. The XR6's sports seating is comfortable and supportive and the driving position is very good, though some drivers said they didn't like the small, fat feeling of the leather steering wheel.

The new Ford really has a leg over the opposition with its brilliant central LCD panel, which displays air conditioning/ventilation status, time and audio settings. Sun glare is avoided in 99 percent of situations. The main controls are well laid out and easy to use, the only exception is the buttons for the traction control, driving lights, boot and fuel flap release buttons are obscured.

Standard equipment extends to twin front airbags, air conditioning (no climate control), remote central locking, cruise control, power windows, mirrors and driver's seat, aluminium Momo gearknob (plus the aforementioned leather wrapped steering wheel), adjustable front seat lumbar support, 4-way electric driver's seat adjustment, adjustable seatbelt anchorages with seatbelt pre-tensioners and a trip computer. An all-new CD/tuner sound system features digital sound processing (DSP) and has good clarity and punch up to high listening levels.

The instrument binnacle houses a 260 km/h speedo, redline-less tacho, fuel and temp gauges and an LCD trip computer. Blue LED nighttime illumination and a backlit XR logo make the instrument cluster look trick, but the 'Seiko style' gauge surrounds clutter the viewing area.

Overall build quality is noticeably better than we've seen on earlier Falcons. Paint quality is very good, panel margins are decent and - at last - a trim piece has been added to finish the fuel filler surround. It seems Ford has been reading our criticisms of previous cars... Things are still short of being perfect, however. Our test car was missing a section of its external roof trim, the twin cup holders in the console feel a bit rough'n'ready, there's only base coat colour under the bonnet, we didn't like the rubber plumbing between the intercooler and throttle and the boot finish is substandard. Not only is the boot floor as undulating as a rocky road, the carpet edges aren't stitched and it scrunches up in a mess whenever a weighty object slides across it. The boot is partially redeemed by its abundant space (which is maximised with use of twin gas support struts), split fold-forward rear backrest and a full-size spare under the chipboard floor.

Still - for just $43,965 - you can't complain about a few gnarly bits. This is, unquestionably, the bargain performance buy of the last five years. Don't believe it? Well, the comparably priced Subaru WRX is smaller, lesser equipped, slower and, in many ways, lower-tech while the offerings from Holden don't stack up well against the Ford. Sure, the VY Commodore SV8 undercuts the XR6T by about $3500, but it's so far behind in equipment and appeal it's not funny. The vehicle closest to the spec of the XR6T must be the new SS Commodore, but - at around $5500 extra - it's nowhere near as good value. We'd much rather buy an XR6T, give it the premium brake package and a few options - maybe side airbags and a power sunroof - and come away with a few bucks change...

Why You Would...

Technically advanced engine (4.0litre Inline-6)
Extreme flexibility with peak torque stretching between 2000 - 4500 rpm
Effortless 6-second 0 - 100 km/h performance
Very roomy and practical
Interior well appointed and attractive
Attractive styling
A whole lot of performance car for the money

Why You Wouldn't...

Gearbox and differential whines and clunks - we wonder about durability
Sucks fuel fairly heavily when driving hard
Poor finish inside the boot
Despite standard traction control, the chassis could still 'get away' from an inexperienced driver
The Falcon XR6 Turbo was provided to AutoSpeed for this test by Ford Australia.
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Old 09-19-2005, 12:03 PM
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Ford, Aston Martin, and GM

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http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/st...E27286,00.html

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Falcon XR6T becoming car of choice.
Peter Barnwell
10mar05

FORD'S ownership of Aston Martin has a local benefit the new six-speed manual transmission in Falcon XR6 Turbo and XR8 is lifted from the monumental Aston Martin Vanquish.

It's a Tremec T56 box found in other Ford muscle cars including the Mustang Cobra and, oh yes, Holden Commodore V8 though the Ford version is individualised in terms of shift feel and gearing. It's a bit of a payback when you think Holden uses a copy of the Falcon front suspension in its V8 Supercars. Component sharing is bigger than you think between the two.

The six-speed replaces a good five-speeder in the previous model and is intended to more efficiently capture the potent performance of the 4.0-litre, turbo six.

It does that better than in the XR8 and delivers absolutely sparkling performance pretty well everywhere.

Slip it into gear, push the throttle and away you go whoooosh.
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just remember that Holden is a GM company! so GM uses Ford parts in their V8 platforms --in this case, the Holden Monaro. which is the Pontiac GTO here in North America!

recall, as well, that the Porsche Cayenne crossover vehicle shares the same F-Alpha platform as Nissan's truck line.

so when you think about brand-loyalty, think again.
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Originally Posted by R33_GTS-t
that is boss! looks like a super XR6. why don't we get stuff like that here in the united states?
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Im from australia and we have xr6s and i wish they would leave. All those people who think its fast make me angry. It is not a very good car with bad handling its heavy and its just really bad. Also the ecu cant be changed or replaced. Further more i hate australian cars even though im from australia.
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