skyline times round tsukuba/nurburgring
 

does any one know what the fastest time round the nurburgring? the 2 times i know at tuskuba are
1.) mines r34 n1 project car = 0 min 57.75sec
2.) top secret fusion bnr34 = 0 min 58.38sec

Try here mate. Ben has times and all the 'Ring info you will ever need. I think the fastest ever was around 6'10" .....ish. Porsche 956. Knowing me, I'm probably wrong though.

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/

ive seen his site before but i cant find gtr times
i have found out since that the skyline was at one time (and maybe still is) the fastest prodection car officialy tested around the ring

go here and scroll down to "Nurburgring":

http://forums.gtrforums.com/showthre...7&page=3&pp=10

the list is current to 2003. it will be updated as more information becomes known.

The production car lap record is now down to around 7mins 30 I believe.

Times have dropped a lot in the last few years. EVO magazine did an article a couple of years ago featuring the crop of cars that had gone sub eight minutes. If I remember correctly they were R33 GT-R, Jaguar XJ220, Caterham R500, Audi RS4 and a 911 - can't remember which one.

Since then times have been demolished by the new breed of hypercars.

There is also much speculation about the state of tune of the GT-R. It definately was not a stock car.

By the way - I was there last week and did around 9:30 in my 500bhp R33 GT-R

the r33 once held the record for the ring and i know in testing for the r34 it was almost 20seconds faster than the r33 round the ring

The R33 GT-R was the first production to go sub eight minutes. Driven by Dirk Schoysman during testing. BUT, it was NOT a standard car. There are all sorts of rumours about the power/mods it was running, eg: boost etc. Probably nearer a stage one car.

The R34 was timed at 7:42 I believe. But again - was it stock?

over the years, many changes have been made to the course: there is "nordschleife," "nordschleife + old south," "nordschleife + new south loop/GP track."

Clay Regazzoni did a race lap in the 1975 GP of 7:06.4. Nicki Lauda did a practice/qualifying lap of 6:59-ish(22.8km).

Stefan Bellof or Derek Bell did a race lap in the 1983 1000km of 6:25.91 in a Porsche 956 (22.8 km).

in 2004's 24-hr race, an Opel Astra V8 Coupe did a race lap of 8:26.742 (nordschliefe + "sprint section"/24.358km).

"After Sao Paulo, the Nurburgring is the highest track above sea level, and the thinner air generates a performance loss, so the stress on the engine is automatically reduced. The maximum speed is around 310 kmh and this is reached either at the end of the pit straight or before the NGK chicane, depending on wind direction."

found this:

LAPTIMES - Nordschleife:
7:59 --- Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 ( date?) --(considered unofficial; believed to be modified from stock )
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*1.2m longer circuit than standard Nordschleife:
6:59 --- Ferrari 312T, Niki Lauda, German GP, training (1975)
7:06 --- Ferrari 312T, Clay Regazzoni, German GP, race (1975)
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*0.232 km longer than current, standard Nordschleife:
6:11 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Stefan Bellof, training (1983)
6:26 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Stefan Bellof, race (1983)
6:41 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Derek Bell
7:50 --- BMW X5 Le Mans V12, Hans Stuck (2001)
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Nordschleife:
7:06 --- BMW M3 GTR, 24hrs, test session, Jörg Müller (2003)
7:19 --- Radical SR3 Turbo (2003), >>> Link
7:20* -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe, set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 2003) *estimated
7:25 --- Alzen Motorsport Porsche 996, 24hrs race, Uwe Alzen
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl, Autobild July 2004 >>> Link
7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time by Horst Von Saurma
7:32.5 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (2001) >>> Link
7:36 --- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)
7:40* -- Porsche Carrera GT, *estimated time on cold and partially wet track (2003)
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004 >>> Link
7:42 --- Radical 1500 SR3 (2002)
7:43 --- TechArt GT Street (2001)
7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine, 2002)
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (2003)
7:45 --- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 (2000)
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
7:46 --- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (1999)
7:47 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381PS (996) (2004)
7:49 --- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL (08/2003)
7:50 --- Blitz Supra, 750 PS, Herbert Schürg (1997)
7:50 --- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (1993)
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002)
7:52 --- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003)
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004)
7:54 --- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (tested by Dave Hill)
7:57 --- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS, racing suspension
7:59 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Performance Chassis) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:02 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Sport PASM setting) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:03 --- Porsche 996 GT3 (1999)
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT (07/2000)
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 (12/2002)
8:05 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Normal PASM setting)(Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
8:06 --- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello (06/1998)
8:09 --- Honda NSX-R 3.2 (08/2002)
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999)
8:09 --- Lamborghini Diablo SV (no ABS?)
8:10 --- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411PS, UK-Spec, no ABS (10/1997)
8:10 --- Donkervoort D8 180R
8:12 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (04/2002)
8:12 --- Porsche 993 Turbo
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS (05/1999)
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 PS (10/2004)
8:15 --- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 PS
8:15*-- Holden GTS (2000), *estimated
8:15 --- Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (997) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:16 --- AC-Schnitzer E36 M3 CLS II, 350 PS (11/1997)
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish (2003)
8:17 --- Porsche 996 C2
8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000)
8:18 --- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (09/2003)
8:18 --- Ferrari F355 (06/1997)
8:20 --- Audi RS6 (2002)
8:22 --- BMW E46 M3 (12/2000)
8:22 --- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS (10/1998)
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55 (07/2004)
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT (2003)
8:23 --- Porsche 996 Carrera 4
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004)
8:25 --- Audi RS4 375 HP
8:25 --- Callaway C12
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI (11/1999)
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (11/2002)
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG (05/2001)
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z (2003)
8:28 --- BMW M5, 400 PS(also confirmed by Motor Commodore magazine, 2000)
8:28 --- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- Porsche 993 Carrera 2
8:29 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG (05/2000)
8:29 --- Audi S4 4.2 Avant (11/2003)
8:30 --- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa (10/2002)
8:31 --- Ferrari F355 GTS, 380 PS
8:32 --- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS (09/1997)
8:32 --- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (05/2003)
8:32 --- Porsche Boxster S
8:32 --- Volkswagen Golf R32
8:34 --- Acura NSX, 276 PS
8:34 --- BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i, 231 PS (04/2001)
8:35 --- BMW M3 Coupe, 321 PS
8:35 --- Brabus-Mercedes Benz C V8 Sportcoupé (02/2002)
8:36 --- BMW E36 M3 EVO, 321 PS
8:36 --- Alpina-BMW B3 3.3 Coupé (07/1999)
8:37 --- Maserati 3200GT (2002)
8:37 --- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG (09/2001)
8:37 --- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 --- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo
8:37 --- Honda NSX 3.0 (07/1991)
8:38 --- Honda NSX 3.2 (08/1997)
8:38 --- Mercedes Benz SL500 (12/2001)
8:38 --- Porsche 996 Carrera, 296 PS
8:38 --- Brabus-Mercedes Benz CLK 5.8 (12/1998)
8:39 --- Honda S2000 (01/2000)
8:39 --- Morgan Aero 8 (04/2003)
8:40 --- Holden GTS, on an in and out lap (2000)
8:40 --- Chevrolet Corvette C5 Targa Automatic (07/1997)
8:41 --- Aston Martin DB7 (1999)
8:41 --- Audi S3, 210 PS (06/1999)
8:42 --- Audi S4, 265 PS (08/1998)
8:42 --- Lotus Exige (11/2000)
8:43 --- Honda Integra Type R (12/2000)
8:44 --- Chevrolet Corvette C5
8:45 --- Chevrolet Corvette, 339 PS, automatic
8:46 --- Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285 PS
8:47 --- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS (11/2001)
8:49 --- Jaguar XKR Coupe (07/1998)
8:49 --- Renault Clio Sport V6
8:49 --- Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coupé, 225 PS (11/1998)
8:51 --- Mercedes Benz C43 AMG (02/1998)
8:52 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 430
8:58 --- Lotus Esprit Turbo SE (07/1991)
9:09 --- Volkswagen Golf V6 4Motion
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Shortened Nordschleife:
7:21 - Blitz Supra, 650 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
7:59 - Nissan Skyline R33, unknown suspension & boost; no limiter (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 - BMW E36 M3, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)

LAPTIMES - Nordschleife:
7:59 --- Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 ( date?) --(considered unofficial; believed to be modified from stock )


Some good info there mate.

That time was for the R33 GT-R though not the R34.

The Porsche 956 lap was Stefan Bellof not Derek Bell. There is a video available in the UK with in-car laps of the Nordschleife and Le Mans along with several other tracks from the 1983/4 GT Championship - All with Derek Bell driving. Awesome stuff. It says on that vid that the 956s were timed at 246mph down the Mulsanne straight at Le Mans!!!

moleman, thank you. you are correct about the R33:

7:59 --- Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 in year 1995. however it was later discovered that the speed limiter was disabled, the boost was turned up, and the suspension and ATTESA were modified. so it wasn't stock.

the R34 ran Nurburgring at 7:52, seven seconds quicker than the best R33. but i still don't know the year.

this stuff is a bit confusing!