Skyline Imports
 

I have been in email communication with a company called skyline imports. You may have read this information on another thread, but I think this deserves it's own thread, since it could be another way to get a skyline in the US. Below are the emails I sent and the replies I've gotten from the company. If anyone could do more checking on this and see how this comes out, it might be a boon for all of us. I know there are much more knowledgeable people in here with better resoureces than myself, any and all help is appreiciated.

Date: /Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:37:15 -0400/
>> >I was wondering if you could send me a list of your
>>Registered
>> Importers and conversion specialists for reference. I am only
>> checking on the validity of your claim to be able to import
>>the
>> Nissan Skyline in to the US. I know that there are a bunch of
>> scams out there and just want to be sure before sinking that
>>kind
>> of money into this venture.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks


At this time Skyline Revolution, LLC is authorized and capable of acting as a broker for the entry of Nissan Skylines. Nine Second Racing, LLC has completed and submitted their Registered Importer packet after 2 months of investigation and numerous conversations with NHTSA. We are fully confident at the approval for Nine Second Racing is pending, but the official paper work has not been processed as of yet. We have been working diligently with Skyline Imports for the last 60 days to build a solid relationship. This new partnership is beneficial not only to the 3 companies but also so we can provide a quality end product car for all of our US based interests at a reasonable price. The partnership and the Registered Importer process is not a short and easy process but we are working to make that transition as painless as possible for all 3 companies to work together without delays, without inflated prices, and without complications to each and every one of our customers. Dedication to the Nissan Skyline community and the sport compact community is what makes this what it is. Integrity and honesty is what will make us stand out from all the rest, and we stand behind our cars so that all you have to do is drive them.

Christopher Hancock Skyline Revolution, LLC President



OK, so basically, what you are saying is that at this moment, you
>can NOT import skylines into the United States for street legal road
>use? It sounds like you are still waiting for all the pieces to come
>together. Unless I am misunderstanding your reply.


We are just awaiting the paper work from the NHSTA to confirm our status which we are awaiting for anyday now. This is all we are now waiting for, all premises are ready, we even have a couple of skylines already in the usa also.
So in essence all that we are waiting for is the paperwork to arrive to be able to show the physical proof that we are allowed to import and convert.

Regards

Robert


I have been forwarded the emails between you and Robert. To explain things a little more since its my side of this that is being dealt with at this time. Skyline Revolution, LLC and Nine Second Racing, LLC both are able and capable to import skylines and do the required work to bring the cars into compliance. Right now we have applied for the RI status to do Skylines specifically, the Office of Vehicle Safety and Compliance has received our application and we are just waiting their approval. There are only a few reasons that they would deny the application and after 2 months of communication and clarification with NHTSA/OVSC we will not face any issues the will cause us to be denied. If you have any further questions on this side of the importation please feel welcome to contact me at chris@skylinerevolution.com or here is my business line 719-271-3915.
Best regards,

Christopher Hancock

Skyline Revolution, LLC

President



Ok, that is all I have. Can anyone go any further??? :smilie_th

Not one time in that whole thing did he talk about being EPA compliant either.

In most cases it takes about a year to be approved to be an R. I. And anyone can apply to be an RI.

All skyline's that are 96 and newer have to be OBDII which none of them are tell there converted thats an EPA requirment. It makes the car so expensive, so I don't see there prices any cheaper than MotoRex unless they start cutting corners like MotoRex did and then the'll get in trouble.

I'm wondering if they did any crash testing because I only know of 4 people that have the compleate test data Sean, Hiro, Jack and the DOT. And none of them are giving the information requires to do conversions out.

I'll make some calls but last time I talked to Sean the gov was talking about never allowing the GT-R to be legalized again because so much illegal activity has surrounded them.

Importing is one thing Legalizing for street us is another.

Capable and approved to do the work are too different things.

Hmmm, been more than a couple months...anyone heard fromn these guys? I got nothing from the email I sent them!!!:smilieth

Last time I talked to Sean because Motorex had every so jacked up the DOT was making him crash test 3 gt-r's in order to be allowed to bring them in and convert them.

From my understanding untell someone does these test again the GT-R will not be allowed to be converted or brought in to be legalized.

There was susposed to be some crash testing done last week or so. I haven't talked to him lately.

I am currently doing business with this company, I will let you all know how it goes.

Just because someone tells you they can dosen't mean there doing it legaly. At this present time there is no one that can federaly legalize GT-R's.

I am willing to bet, that unless you ARE the federal government, or EPA, or DOT, that you are just talking out your ass... from heresay, please back up with some evidence.

Funny I don't see them listed as an R.I.
http://nhtsa.com/cars/rules/import/w...t01122006.html

Bring them is one thing then federal legalizing is another at present no one can Fderaly legalize them for street use.

Why don't you get off your azz and do a search on this and other forms me and other's on here have explained why it can't be done.

Ok ok, no more rants here... but back to my point in the pm, you have explained what OTHERS have explained, who heard it from others, and... where does it end...? Someone will just have to take the dive, and I am not really concerned about hearsay.

It's In black and white here read it for your self:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...es/page10.html

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/kitcar.htm

4:The production, sale and importation of vehicle parts (engines, transmissions, chassis, vehicle bodies, etc.) are not regulated by EPA because parts are not considered motor vehicles under the Clean Air Act. However if the parts constitute a disassembled vehicle or an approximate disassembled vehicle, the combination is considered a motor vehicle under the Clean Air Act. Any attempt to use this policy to circumvent the Clean Air Act or the Imports regulations will be considered a violation of the Clean Air Act and will be strictly enforced.

If you also read in there it also states that a kit car can not be a "manufactured vehicle" which is what a skyline is.

Sorry no hear say here just cold hard facts, sorry if you don't like them but it is what it is.

Here's some questions you should ask them:

1: Are they federally legalizing the car? If your car is a 96 or newer how did they get around the OBD2 requirement. (At present there is No Legal way around the OBD2 problem.)

2: Ask them who there RI and ICI are. Call there RI and ICI and verify that they have a contract with the company your buying your car for to do the conversion work and that they can.

REAL GTR,

Great reply! It is nice to see people posting just the facts.

Too many people in their rush to realize their dreams, end up circumventing the law. As is evidenced on other forums like Fresh Alloy.com, companies such as Motorex who chose to break or bend the law are out of business and their owners are now under criminal investigation.

It is possible to illegally import almost anything into the U.S., the problem is that it will never be legitimate. In the end breaking the law is breaking the law, wether it is illegal importation, customs fraud, violation of the Clean Air Act, or title fraud. The young or inexperienced think that it is always the other guy who will get caught. The problem is that in this type of fraud you have so many forces aligned against you, that eventually you will pay the price.

If your car is financed you could be unwittingly defrauding your lender. Usually a car loan contains a clause that has you certify that the car is legal for road use and is in compliance with all related laws. By signing for an "illegally" imported Skyline that can be confiscated by the government, you are defrauding your lender (a crime).

Another good example that no one thinks about is your car your insurance company. In the fine print of your policy it states that your car must meet all local, state, and federal laws concerning it's use. Things like illegal importation, title fraud, and violation of Federal emissions laws would violate your contract (policy) and set you up for denial of your claim. Meaning that if your car is crashed, stolen, or otherwise a total loss be prepared to eat the cost.

I am speaking from personal experience with a former big name insurance company. Claims are denied everyday on technicalities. This is just one more reason an "illegal GTR" is just not worth it.

Besides, its all about karma. Break the law and it comes back to you. Just ask Hiro from Motorex.

-AL

Thanks HellBent

I try to help people out but somepeople just don't want to hear the truth.
Tell it's too late.

true true
 

I just wanted to add a comment to the previous two threads posted by RealGTR and Hellbent. On top of it all being 'illegal' and all, why would anyone want to drive an illegally improrted car anyway. Wouldn't you always be looking over your shoulder, seeing if anyone is following you and running your plates or something? How would owning an illegally imported skyline be any fun then? The whole part of making a dream come true is to be able to enjoy it, and I don't see enjoyment in trying to keep something a secret from the law, just a lot of nervous tension and possibly sleepless nights waiting for someone to confiscate it. I just couldn't do it. :smilie_th

It dosen't make sense to me either why people would want to drive an illegal car there taking a huge risk every time it hit's the road. Up to 5 years in jail and up to a 50,000 fine.

Even legal owners are getting pulled over alot more and inspected.

It's difficult at this point to own a legal one let alone a illegal 1. Thanks to Hiro for putting a spot light on GT-R's.


Here's a very interesting thred.
http://skylinesdownunder.com/forums/...t=50683&page=4

correct. the only skylines that can be legally imported are R33s. the R32 and R34 cannot be legally imported. as for legalization, none are legalizable. you must import any of these cars either as salvage parts only, or, in the case of the R33, as a track-only intended vehicle.

as for having your golden wet dream of having your US legal "Skyline" on the road ---- if you're in socal, pretty much forget it. you can attempt an out-of-state legalization of the car as a salvage title vehicle. but good luck. you have to get the car here first. and that alone has it's own pitfalls. you really, really need to trust the importer/dismantler.

another thought, provided you get a car over here, i would strongly advise against attemtping "legalizing" it. take it to the track on a trailer and you are 200% in the clear, and you can enjoy the GTR in it's true element. today, things have gotten so tight and so scrutinized that to even appear on the road in the united states with a skyline is risking far more than is worth, in my opinion.

I think a lot of people fail to realize the EPA is involved in the importation process as well. Even if your state does not verify vehicles are compliant with the Federal Clean Air Act, you still must file the appropriate EPA paper work (EPA form 3520-1) to import a Skyline.

This paper work helps ensure you use an ICI to meet the emissions standards set forth under the Clean Air Act. Circumventing this paperwork is fraud and a violation of federal law. Basically, unless a Skyline has been complianced by both an RI and an ICI it has not legally entered the USA, and will not have the paper work to prove its legitamcy.

Therefore, there are no Skylines that are legal for just one state and not another. To 'legally' import a street legal Skyline you would basically need to meet the standards of the Clean Air Act, which is basically the same as California's (CARB) emissions rules.

-AL

(If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.)

so basically anybody that I see driving their skyline on the street is illegal?

I swear I see a skyline driving on the street at least 2 times a month...just in the past 3 weeks i have seen like 3 different R33's and 1 R32?

How the hell are these guys driving their cars on the street?

Not every Skyline is illegal, ones brought in by MotoRex are still considered Federaly legal.

There getting away with it because no one checks the paperwork. The cops and Dot aren't really enforcing the law. In Cali they do there quick to pull out the DOT book and carb book.

ok so what about the guys that didnt get their car from Motorex?

and for for those people that posted on here claiming they have dot paper work and their cars are 100% legal did u get you car from Motorex or from somewhere else?

hey i live in good ol cali. what if i somehow (heehee) bring over an R33 and somehow get all the conversions and stuff for it, then if i drive it around will they check up on me?

I got mine for MotoRex.

DOT is only part off the puzzle there's still the EPA 1 more I forget at the moment.

MotoRex was able to legalize them on a federal level other companys that are bringing them in are only getting them by on a city and state level. There still violating a feder law to do it so thus the car is still illegal.

again, to all of you noobs:

FORGET IT.

you ain't gonna drive no damn GTR legally on the road anymore. there is no loophole for post-MotoRex "legalizing." so just deal with it. forget it. come off it. get a CLUE.

get a LIFE.

hey bonze howbout buying a Moto-Rex legalized (before) GT-R from someone?

i already have an R32GTR --in pieces in my garage. non-legal for street-- imported independently as a rolling chassis. this is the only way currently to do it without finding a MotoRex legalized one. and those go for over $40k for an R32.

i did think about buying a US legal one, but i don't have $40K cash laying around.

hi guys, im new here, but i have also contacted this so called importer. Ive asked them why they arent on the list and they just dont reply back, or just say something like, " We can bring skylines to the US". thats it, ive also tried calling them, but it seems like its just some guy's cell phone, which he never answers, ive seen tons of scammy importers over the years, this one seems no different.

help with transfer case oil?
 

what kind of fuild goes in it?:confused:

do you mean what kind of fuel? as in gasoline? the skyline takes vegatable oil, you can park in back of a macdonalds and just ask them for it.














btw im just kidding. it's pretty much your everyday overpowered car that runs off gasoline...octane 91 is preferable.

If your talking about the trans the any quality AT fluid will work but I personaly use shock proff heavy, It helps with the 3rd gear problem.

If your talking about the front diff then 75w90 gear oil.

Nine Second Racing
 

9 second racing is a RI:)

well guys i feel sorry for you lot over in america who are wanting a skyline it must be dam fustrating:( over here if the imported car is 10 years old or more then the car just requires an M.O.T if the car is yonger than 10years then it requires an S.V.A test which is more strindgent than the M.O.T.

Yes they are. But being an RI doesn't mean you can make a car street legal by DOT and EPA standards. That is a whole 'nother ball game and set of rules. Being an RI only means that you can legally import the car into the US. That's it. It does not mean that the car that they bring in is going to be street legal.

Oh cool. It does not matter to me. I'm Air force, I go to Yakota AFB Aug.28. Just pass info

to recap, only MotoRex legalized GTRs can be street-driven.

post-MotoRex fraud --all GTRs are banned from ever being street legal.

R32s are only able to be imported as a rolling chassis
R33s can be imported as complete cars
R34s are banned; cannot be imported

all GTRs, R32, R33, R34 are illegal for street use. they can be track-only cars.

period.

Not entirely correct:

R33 (Only limited years of R33s can be imported by an RI. Although there are no RIs who are currently able to conform them.)

R32s and R33s - They are not banned, merely no one has convinced the NHTSA that they can be made to conform with FMVSS.

** any vehicle can be brought in as parts (i.e. "rolling chasis" with no engine) however, to do so with the intention of reassembling into a motor vehicle violates Federal Codes and environmental laws (see NHTSA and EPA websites). The "kit car" method is a scam for dodging the law and completely illegal.

-AL

R34 cannot be brought in as rolling chassis. or as complete car. that car is banned. no rolling chassis. try to bring one over and tell me what happens to you.

R33: nobody ever said they were banned. they can be imported as complete cars as stated. the year range stipulation for complete car i've never heard of, but i'll take your word for it. otherwise, it can be brought over as chassis, as you say.

R32: banned. cannot be brought in as a complete car. only as rolling chassis. this implies the car cannot be assembled once here legally. it can be reassembled and taken to a track only, never to touch the public road or be registered.

for example, if i have an R32 GTR and somehow i show up to a track with the car on a trailer, nobody willl care how it came to be this way --salvage, kit, flotsom, jetsam-- i will pay the fee for the day and do laps. nobody will care. i will then put the car back onto the trailer. and go home. many track-day cars are street-illegal, and they run them without any legal issues. technically, the process of reassembling the GTR is federally illegal. yet can be "legally" done on a state level. nonetheless, the process is ultimately illegal. keep the car on the track only.

to attempt to drive this "kit" on the open road is federally illegal, and a cop WILL pull you over.

as stated beforehand, none of the cars can be "legalized." people who think any of the R-series GTRs can be presently "legalized" on American roads are living in a fantasy world.

Here's the link for refferance on the 33 stipulation

http://www.nhtsa.com/cars/rules/impo...%20Impor-16426


NHTSA has determined that the R33 Model Nissan GTS and GTR ("Skyline") passenger cars manufactured between January 1, 1996 and June 30, 1998 are eligible for importation