APEXi FC COMMANDER PRO CONNECT Laptop
 

G'day,

I want to buy the software "APEXi FC COMMANDER PRO CONNECT Laptop
PC". I want the english version if possible. If there is no english version, do you know how I can get one and how much?

We already have Power FC and commander to suit an R33 GTR. We are also looking at Data Logit as well, if anyone out there has experience and has been down this road, please advise, it will be much appreciated,

Thanks KG

The only thing you can get is the Datalogic software.

Apex will not sell you the Excel software unless your an Excel dealer. I've tried i even have friends that work there and they won't let me get a copy of it.

The datalogic software will be cheaper any way. (around 400.00 last time i checked)
and u can still use a laptop.

If you still want the FC software you can try and find a pireted copy but you don't really know what your getting and if it has everything.

How much HP are you going to be pushing?

G'day mate,

Thanks for the reply. We're talking 600HP, its capable of much higher figures but we're keeping it down. We've ordered the datalogit so I guess we'll wait and see if it does the job,

Thanks again, KG

Cool'

Just to let you know in case you didn't, the power FC can only hold 1 map in memory at a time so when you run race gas you have to reset the FC and load in the new map. And then again when you switch back to pump gas.

Thanks for the info, I'll let you know how we go

600hp is probably on the limits of the power fc's capabilities.

Actually you incorect the regular Power FC box is only limited to the MAF's so if you have the 300z MAF's the most you can get out of the standard Power FC box is around 849 ish.

Apex also has an D-jetro box that changes everything to pressure sensors and it has almost no limits other than the map issue . Which is only being able to hold 1 map at a time. The D-Jetro will support 900+ hp and above.

I did not meen limitations as far as the AFMs and i should have explained myself properly :o . I meant to say that the power fc is not as an advanced unti as say an F-CON or MoTeC. It can still tune it but it would be easier with one of the others. As an example the scoot quad rotor is making about 400 horsepower and it has reached the limits of the power fc. I dont know if this is a very good example though because it uses two power fcs and is a completely different engine to an rb26.

The F-Con and Motec are better boxes they do have some draw backs. I would not say that there easier. Just better.

The F-Con and Motec don't offer user interface without a laptop and required software which is very had to get.

So if you a customer with either box, unless you take your car back to the tuner each and every time an adjustment needs to be made your stuck with the maps that are in the F-Con or Motec box.

The Power-FC and the Greddy E-manage let you make changes from the comfort of your driver's seat. Which comes in handy on track day when you have to adjust for humidity and different pressure in the elevation.

Yeah that is a bad example too the FC is car specific. It's very difficult to hard wire it and have it work on a car it wasn't designed to work on.

well said. also some people dislike e-manage because its piggyback, what is your opinion?

Hi there, there has been a bit of misinformation in this thread.

Apexi does sell a product which is a cable that attaches to a Power FC or Power FC Pro to a laptop and allows you to tune tables more easily that way called the Pro Connect.

However this product is not as capable as FC-Datalogit "From what I have heard"

I am not sure if it is available in an English version although I have confirmed it is sold in NZ so I'm about 90% sure that you could purchase an English version in NZ or Austrailia, etc.

Its my personal opinion that piggybacks are worth their weight in dog ****. I am by no means super experianced in tuning but it doesn't take much knowledge to see the logic in a standalone, once you spend any amount of time tuning cars the limitations associated with piggybacks becomes extremely apparant, whether you are trying to tune a 250whp Honda or a 500whp Nissan. I would never use anything "less" than a PowerFC on any car. IMO, the next step up is a plug & play fully capable unit like an AEM (which does provide significant advantages over the Power FC) and after that, you are in the big boys $$$ league.

I hate to put a ballpark whp number on when to go with certain engine management options. I would never put a piggyback on anything, because the goal of any EMS is to run an engine correctly at all RPMs and loads, optimize fueling and ignition timing at all points, and that is something that is usually not possible to do with a piggyback.

Anyways, take everything I say with a grain of salt, I do not consider myself an expert on the subject, but I have taken the time to educate myself on a few issues :) If you are interested in learning more on EMS then check out www.efi101.com.

Sam

Your right on the Pro Connect, but it isn't available/ hasen't been realised here in the states yet. From what i was told there is only a Japanese version. It retails for around the same price as the Datalogic.

It basicaly let's you see everything that's on the comander's screen but on your laptop. It's not really software it just helps you use what's already there.

Is AEM plug and play now? Last time I looked into it there were still having to hard wire it.

AEM says that it is plug and play, I dont believe that it is, unless they are including different conversion harnesses with the ECUs. I troll their forums and there isn't too much to pick up on their Skyline products. Their website lists everything as a new release.

89-98 RB26DETT 30-1621
89-94 RB20DET 30-1621
93-98 RB25DET 30-1621
99-03 RB26DETT 30-1623

All the models are available with or without their wideband, tack a "U" onto the end of the part number along with an additional $500 to the MSRP for any of the units of $2,335.60.

aempower.com

Sorry, i was wrong about my last post haha

i guess i am also spreading misinfo

I went back to AEM's forums recently and they have a whole section: goto www.aempower.com click the rightmost, scroll down to Nissan: "Nissan Skyline/300ZX/Maxima
Everything specific to the 30-1620, 30-1621, and 30-1623 EMS."

I guess the new skyline boxes are all P'nP and are being used with great sucess

I highly encourage anyone interested in a standalone to visit the AEM forums and also www.kismo.dk he is a user on AEM forum who's posted up pictures and videos on his homepage.

yeha plug in play is a plus

Has anybody of you experience with Autronic ECU's?
I wanna know more about the reliabilty and the setup.

Derby

Also one thing about the PFC it can only control up too 6 injectors the HKS can control up too 12.