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GTR Pricing and Trim Levels Released...
Well, Kinda...
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/26/e...el-and-prices/ "So, AutoExpress releases information today that says that the new GT-R will come in at ?29,000... in Japan. We're not sure how that's going to equate in U.S. dollars (or yen, for that matter), but what was even more interesting was that they divulged the varying levels of trim that will be offered when the GT-R goes on sale next year. The "entry-level" version will come equipped with a six-speed manual gearbox, four piston Brembos and the aforementioned ?29,000 price tag. The next step up would be the ?35,000 V-spec version, that gets a seven-speed DSG and six-piston stoppers, while the top o' the line Evolution package will get everything included in the V-spec, but will also come with lots of carbon fiber pieces to reduce weight. The GT-R Evolution will likely be priced over ?50,000. Again, we have no idea where these figures and trim levels came from, as AutoExpress only says that "sources" provided in the information. Whatev, we're still salivating." At current exchange rates, you can expect in the range of $56961 - Entry Level $68747 - V-Spec $98210 - Evolution Package Interesting that the top end model is called the "Evolution"... :) ________ MARIJUANA VAPORIZERS |
wow, that sounds pretty reasonable. But what are the power offerings in the all the levels?
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Here's a Link to the original article...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au..._supercar.html Not really anymore info "Sources say the base version of the Porsche 911 rival will be the equivalent of ?29,000 in Japan.The lower price is down to the brakes and transmission. While the entry-level GT-R will employ a six-speed manual gearbox and four-piston Brembo brakes, the ?35,000 V-spec version will get six-piston Brembos and a dual-clutch, two-pedal, seven-speed DSG box. A GT-R Evolution with carbon fibre parts to reduce weight will be nearer ?52,000." Original ?50,000 was off... so expect top of the line to come in around $102,138... From what I gather power output seems the same... but $30K in Carbon Fiber is a fawk of a lot of Carbon Fiber... We'll see... ________ Pornstars future |
I say B.S...
No car company introduces such a huge spread of models the first year. No way, no how. It would be marketing suicide. Any first year marketing student will tell you, that they will introduce a base model the first year that will hopefully be a new performance benchmark and technological "tour de force" at their price point. Then as the bugs are worked out and intrest fades slightly they will add a performance or trim level to increase interest again in the second or third model year. Then possibly in the third or fourth model year they introduce a new "halo" version, to boost sagging sales and waning interest. It could come sooner if there is a new competitor that emerges, although not likely. For good examples, see the Corvette and ZO6 or Mustang and Cobra examples. -AL |
I agree with HellBent above. I believe there will only be one fairly decked out model the first year, with a handful of options such as transmission type, nav, and other little stuff to satisfy the individualist. Later maybe such things as special editions or Nismo tuner levels. They will want to keep the car in a relatively narrow range pricewise for introduction.
By the way, after listening to the car pass the camera and microphone on several of the roadcourses, especially when in front of the car coming at you, do you think it could be a small displacement V-8 twin turbo? Possibly loosely based on one of their 4+ liter displacement engines? The car had an awfully deep throaty resonance for even a large six cylinder in some of the clips I reviewed. Also, notice that even the G37 coupe has an all wheel steer option and it putting out good HP numbers even with the normally aspirated engine! :D:D:D |
+2 For the two posts above, look at the Mitsubishi Evolution, only 2 models were offered in the first itterations and both models were virtually identical except one was lighter. Then after several itterations untill the Evolution 8, they came out with the MR Evolution and a Evolution 9 with MIVEC. I think the sources are BS.
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Originally Posted by 02HREBlue
(Post 3356)
I agree with HellBent above. I believe there will only be one fairly decked out model the first year, with a handful of options such as transmission type, nav, and other little stuff to satisfy the individualist. Later maybe such things as special editions or Nismo tuner levels. They will want to keep the car in a relatively narrow range pricewise for introduction.
By the way, after listening to the car pass the camera and microphone on several of the roadcourses, especially when in front of the car coming at you, do you think it could be a small displacement V-8 twin turbo? Possibly loosely based on one of their 4+ liter displacement engines? The car had an awfully deep throaty resonance for even a large six cylinder in some of the clips I reviewed. Also, notice that even the G37 coupe has an all wheel steer option and it putting out good HP numbers even with the normally aspirated engine! :D:D:D |
I in no way disagree about the six cylinder comments, but it doesn't sound like one in the videos! I would be pleased with the six, but maybe it is larger displacement than we were originally lead to believe! Who would have believed a year ago that BMW would build a twin turbo, and also put a V-8 in the M3? Speculation is fun, especially with a brand new product such as this car.
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what will the power offerings be with the 3 different trim models? will it still be the
450 crank and 360 tq or at least around the same for the base,v-spec, and GTR evolution? |
The Evo is a MUCH cheaper and more widely available car. I would be EXTREMELY surprised if there is more than one model the first year, especially with its extremely low production numbers anticipated. I just don't see it happening at all! It would not be an appropriate introduction in my mind-it would dilute the car and confuse people from the start.
Its going to bring more horsepower than you are stating simply because there soon will be quite a few sports cars with 500 horsepower including such common cars as the Mustang! The new Vette(base will be 450+ hp and the SS/Blue Devel 600-700!)is going to smoke, so Nissan better bring the bacon. I am confident they are holding their cards close to the vest, and that we will not be disappointed when it is introduced at the next Tokyo Autoshow. They have not waited 5+years with such secrecy to take second fiddle. They are waiting so they can better size up the competition and trump it outright. By the way, I was reading that the new M3 V-8 will be lighter than the previous generation M3 inline 6! I still think it will be a larger displacement V-6(4+Liter) or even a V-8(4.5L), since the extra displacement gives outstanding torque characteristics without peak or excessive boost, which makes for outstanding drivability and wider tunability. V-8's are more compact than the inline 6, and with all the exotic materials such as mag and aluminum alloys, I think it is a great possibility. :smilie_th |
Originally Posted by HellBent
(Post 3355)
I say B.S...
No car company introduces such a huge spread of models the first year. No way, no how. It would be marketing suicide. Any first year marketing student will tell you, that they will introduce a base model the first year that will hopefully be a new performance benchmark and technological "tour de force" at their price point. Then as the bugs are worked out and intrest fades slightly they will add a performance or trim level to increase interest again in the second or third model year. Then possibly in the third or fourth model year they introduce a new "halo" version, to boost sagging sales and waning interest. It could come sooner if there is a new competitor that emerges, although not likely. For good examples, see the Corvette and ZO6 or Mustang and Cobra examples. -AL |
I'll just say I would be shocked if any variant showed up in the US for around 60k
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we can sit here and debate/argue about stuff we have no idea about till we are blue in the face. The fact is, we don't really "know" SH**! Nissan is keeping it all under wraps till it is released. So we can anticipate what we want. Hope for whatever we can. But in the end, we just have to wait and see.....:smilie_th
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Except for maybe the price, no one here ought to feel for a second that they are going to be let down or disappointed with the introduction of the GT-R, you will see. Like I said, they would have released it a long time ago if they were in a hurry to fill a niche or price range--this obviously is not the case.
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Originally Posted by 02HREBlue
(Post 3370)
The Evo is a MUCH cheaper and more widely available car. I would be EXTREMELY surprised if there is more than one model the first year, especially with its extremely low production numbers anticipated. I just don't see it happening at all! It would not be an appropriate introduction in my mind-it would dilute the car and confuse people from the start.
Its going to bring more horsepower than you are stating simply because there soon will be quite a few sports cars with 500 horsepower including such common cars as the Mustang! The new Vette(base will be 450+ hp and the SS/Blue Devel 600-700!)is going to smoke, so Nissan better bring the bacon. I am confident they are holding their cards close to the vest, and that we will not be disappointed when it is introduced at the next Tokyo Autoshow. They have not waited 5+years with such secrecy to take second fiddle. They are waiting so they can better size up the competition and trump it outright. By the way, I was reading that the new M3 V-8 will be lighter than the previous generation M3 inline 6! I still think it will be a larger displacement V-6(4+Liter) or even a V-8(4.5L), since the extra displacement gives outstanding torque characteristics without peak or excessive boost, which makes for outstanding drivability and wider tunability. V-8's are more compact than the inline 6, and with all the exotic materials such as mag and aluminum alloys, I think it is a great possibility. :smilie_th |
I said the V-8 ENGINE is lighter than the previous six. No where did I say the car would be lighter, since it is not. It is a bigger car than previous, as is my current 335i.
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Hello All!
What's up guys? I am new to this website! I love the look of the new GT-R and the anticipation is killing me. I am down for some DSG-type transmission action here in OC, SoCal! I hope that there is not a spread of $50k, cause I won't settle for a lesser model...I'll then have to invest $30k on stupid CF upgrades (and I agree...that's a sh*tload of CF!)...and at 100k+...can you say Audi R8 sexiness?
Yea, I definitely don't see this happening! I concur--bad marketing if indeed. I do have a feeling Nissan has a HUGE surprise up their sleeve! Fall's Tokyo show can't come any slower! Viva La GT-R!!!!!!!! It is super sexy. Did you see those tailpipes in the spyshots!? Oh wait...I was supposed end it at Viva La GT-R!!!!!!!!!!! :):smilie_th:waglleybo:smilie_th:) |
Originally Posted by ghotnit
(Post 3375)
Nissan has a habit of doing that. remember the new Z car? It had three variants all due to performance parts. The price difference was not as great but there were three variants. I do like the price though. Maybe the "Evolution" variant is a Nismo tune given its large price difference. 30k is a lot of carbon fiber and the cost for CF is much lower now.
I was comparing Mustand and Cobra, or Corvette and Zo6. What you are saying is Mustang, Mustang GT, Mustang Mach1, etc... The different versions of the Z are merely window dressing. What was suggested by the article is significantly evolved cars that command significantly different pricepoints. That would put these is different niche markets. I don't see Nissan doing that the first year. Unless of course it is a Japanese market only ploy... -AL |
Originally Posted by HellBent
(Post 3496)
Not quite what I was talking about.
I was comparing Mustand and Cobra, or Corvette and Zo6. What you are saying is Mustang, Mustang GT, Mustang Mach1, etc... The different versions of the Z are merely window dressing. What was suggested by the article is significantly evolved cars that command significantly different pricepoints. That would put these is different niche markets. I don't see Nissan doing that the first year. Unless of course it is a Japanese market only ploy... -AL |
i bet they will ofer the base and the vspec model right away
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Originally Posted by MattGold
(Post 3352)
Well, Kinda...
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/26/e...el-and-prices/ "So, AutoExpress releases information today that says that the new GT-R will come in at £29,000... in Japan. We're not sure how that's going to equate in U.S. dollars (or yen, for that matter), but what was even more interesting was that they divulged the varying levels of trim that will be offered when the GT-R goes on sale next year. The "entry-level" version will come equipped with a six-speed manual gearbox, four piston Brembos and the aforementioned £29,000 price tag. The next step up would be the £35,000 V-spec version, that gets a seven-speed DSG and six-piston stoppers, while the top o' the line Evolution package will get everything included in the V-spec, but will also come with lots of carbon fiber pieces to reduce weight. The GT-R Evolution will likely be priced over £50,000. Again, we have no idea where these figures and trim levels came from, as AutoExpress only says that "sources" provided in the information. Whatev, we're still salivating." At current exchange rates, you can expect in the range of $56961 - Entry Level $68747 - V-Spec $98210 - Evolution Package Interesting that the top end model is called the "Evolution"... :) DrivetrainEngineGradeTransmissionPrice (yen, Consumption tax included)4WDVR38DETTGT-RGR6-type dual clutch transmission7,770,000GT-R Black edition7,927,500GT-R Premium edition8,347,500 http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/NEWS...1024-01-e.html Currency Converter: http://finance.yahoo.com/currency SymbolU.S. DollarExchange RateJapanese YenBidAskUSDJPY=X1Oct 25114.49114.49114.49114.52 SymbolJapanese YenExchange RateU.S. DollarBidAskJPYUSD=X7770000Oct 250.00873567,869.1496910.0087350.008737 SymbolJapanese YenExchange RateU.S. DollarBidAskJPYUSD=X7927500Oct 250.00873569,244.8756980.0087350.008737 SymbolJapanese YenExchange RateU.S. DollarBidAskJPYUSD=X8347500Oct 250.00873372,900.7517860.0087330.008735 I am not quite sure what consumption tax is but remember its added to the cost of the car. Yall let me know what you think. Sorry guys I didnt know it was going to turn out like this!! let me clean it up a bit...: GT-R - $67,869 USD Just a guest converting from Yen's GT-R Black edition - $69,244 USD GT-R Premium edition - $72,900 USD |
Originally Posted by 4me2run
(Post 3732)
not tryig to contest you, but these are the numbers I found on the GTR website:
DrivetrainEngineGradeTransmissionPrice (yen, Consumption tax included)4WDVR38DETTGT-RGR6-type dual clutch transmission7,770,000GT-R Black edition7,927,500GT-R Premium edition8,347,500 http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/NEWS...1024-01-e.html Currency Converter: http://finance.yahoo.com/currency SymbolU.S. DollarExchange RateJapanese YenBidAskUSDJPY=X1Oct 25114.49114.49114.49114.52 SymbolJapanese YenExchange RateU.S. DollarBidAskJPYUSD=X7770000Oct 250.00873567,869.1496910.0087350.008737 SymbolJapanese YenExchange RateU.S. DollarBidAskJPYUSD=X7927500Oct 250.00873569,244.8756980.0087350.008737 SymbolJapanese YenExchange RateU.S. DollarBidAskJPYUSD=X8347500Oct 250.00873372,900.7517860.0087330.008735 I am not quite sure what consumption tax is but remember its added to the cost of the car. Yall let me know what you think. Sorry guys I didnt know it was going to turn out like this!! let me clean it up a bit...: GT-R - $67,869 USD Just a guest converting from Yen's GT-R Black edition - $69,244 USD GT-R Premium edition - $72,900 USD These three versions are merely differentiated by accessories, not performance. I'll stand by my original post and say that the U.S. won't see anything but a base model for the first year. -AL |
They really have not yet stated what all teh differences will be between the levels. All we know is things like the red and black interior is meant for the black edition. There will be more information forthcoming, but you are probably at least somewhat correct in that there will not be major performance differences. It has been very much so hinted that there will be a high performance version coming later possibly called a vspec
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I will take whatever is available as long as its White and no bugs
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